Talk:Jean-Pascal van Ypersele

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Call for help : adding factual information

I think that some text from this page lacks balance and/or accuracy, especially the reference to I Marko in the Controversies sections. I will not modify this my self to avoid any conflict of interest, being a colleague of Pr van Ypersele. However I know that this is not a fair account of the facts : there is no link between van Ypersele and any "boycott" in relation with a book, and even the idea of a boycott in relation of a book is inaccurate. Suggesting that someone is trying to silence someone else (or having any other misbehavior) should not be done in such vague terms : any "controversy" should be explained clearly and in a balanced manner. In this case, I Marko is publishing the books he wants, nobody banned him from doing so afaik. Digging further may be difficult however, especially as most of this happened in French. You might find some information here http://www.moustique.be/14216/pourquoi-van-ypersele-refuse-de-debattre-avec-des-climato-sceptiques and the related book written by van Ypersele and the one written by Marko, to know what all this is really about. What should wikipedia editors do when there is a person that says that the Earth is roughly spherical while the other says that it is flat? Can this be labelled as a controversy, and the first person be sort of blamed for no longer accepting to discuss about the flat Earth? Is this what is happening here? That is clearly how I view it, but it needs review, and deciding what is or is not a genuine controversy may need some scientific knowledge. Pmarbaix (talk) 12:49, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Note about the request for peer review - typo

In the request for peer review I wrote that the personal site of JP van Ypersele "could be cited" while it already is, and my link was wrong. Newbie mistake. I apologize. Thanks for your help re my other remarks ! Pmarbaix (talk) 13:38, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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Removal of unreliable sources

In the "Popularity in Quebec" section, there was a note about how van Ypersele was becoming popular with students. The reference for this, and a claim that students are making memes about him, was simply a link to a meme generating website. This is not a reliable source, and thus the statement and the citation have been removed.

Since this is not the French Wiki, it does not make sense to simply recreate the French article here with French sources. We need to have reliable, English sources to support BLP articles within the English Wikipedia.

There are also some language issues, with some of the sentence structures not really making sense in English. Although this is an understandable and forgivable issue, it becomes more challenging to fact check and correct the grammatical errors because the provided source texts are not in English.

This article will also be tagged for improvement to overall citations. Curdigirl (talk) 23:57, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I have reworked it, structured, additional information, and English-language references Jnyssen (talk) 16:20, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

The controversy section in this article

While reworking and expanding the article, there was the task to handle the heteroclite “controversy section”, for which one needs to be cautious, just like in any article on wiki.

1. Polemics with Istvan Marko. This has been reworded in the new article and focus given to the petition he organised opposing van Ypersele's candidacy as IPCC chair in 2015. With regard to the so-called boycot of Marko’s book, there is not any evidence that Van Ypersele or UCLouvain called for such a boycot – according to news reports there was such claim for boycot by a student group. If this information has encyclopedal relevance, it should be in an article related to Istvan Marko (yet to be written).

2.The Ntezimana case – according to the press article cited in the earlier version of the article, van Ypersele received the assignment from his University to investigate whether Ntezimana was involved in the Rwandan genocide. From his investigation, he thought that this person was innocent, and he witnessed about that at the court. The way this incident was written in earlier version of the article brought the whole thing out of context. Would there be a genuine interest in this story, then we could expect first of all that the authors write an article on the Ntezimana case. It is based on these thoughts that I did not incorporate the sentence on Ntezimana in the article.

3. The AP interview where van Ypersele talked about the “so-called superpowers” – I think that this rather fits with a section on ‘notoriety’, not ‘controversy’. Hence I moved it to that section.

This is a rewording of a discussion we also had yesterday on Sylvainremy's user talk page Jnyssen (talk) 10:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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