Talk:Jean Marie Stine

Transition

It would be very valuable to this article to if we could say when she transitioned to female. Is this information available anywhere? Thanks in advance. RomanSpa (talk) 00:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed; but are there reliable sources? Was anything published in Locus or Ansible? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

article refers to Stine as "she" when describing events that occurred before Stine's sex change operation

This article refers to Stine as "she" when describing events that occurred before Stine's sex change operation. Prior to that operation Stine was by anyone's definition a man and should be referred to with male pronouns such as "he" and "his". Stokesdc (talk) 07:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I believe that transgendered people take the position that their real gender, even before the surgery, was that to which they are re-assigned. Thus, Jean Marie would presumably argue that "Hank" was really just pre-operative Jean Marie, and deserves the female pronouns. I've compromised by using gender-neutral edits to some parts of the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

This issue peaked my interest, and I wanted to know what the manual of style had to say about it.

In the Identity section, it says that the pronouns, possessive adjectives etc. should "reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. This applies in references to any phase of that person's life, unless the subject has indicated a preference otherwise.".

So, even though some events occurred before she transitioned, Stine should be referred to as a female. In the time since Orangemike's edit as above,, however, the gender neutral expressions have been replaced and she is now referred to correctly as a female. 49Sally (talk) 06:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Need better indication of when she started to use new name

As the author was widely published under the name "Hank Stine", it would be helpful to indicate when she adopted her current name, and if any of her books were republished under the new name. For example, the only editions of her Prisoner novel I am aware of are credited to Hank Stine, the most recent being published in the early 1990s. So one could presume (possibly erroneously) that the dead name "Hank Stine" was still in use as recently as then; if, however, the author's current name was in use before, then the 1990s Prisoner reprinting credit was in error (or perhaps required for copyright). I know dead names are a sensitive topic, but when used in a public venue such as a book publication, they can't be avoided totally (any more so than can Olympics reference books and the credits to the film Can't Stop the Music - and early seasons of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, for that matter - using the name Bruce Jenner due to her decades-long celebrity under that name, but we know when that name was changed). 70.73.90.119 (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)