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Shouldn't this put more emphasis on the fact that a - back then - German citizen was hi-jacked from German territory by the US? "Not consulting German officials" is kind of euphemising this illegal course of action. 22:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
A US military person was picked up by the military in the FRG, so the then existing US/FRG SOFA agreement controlled. I was a US MP in Germany slightly later, and we never needed German permission to apprehend (military)/arrest (civvie) persons subject to the SOFA agreement. The attempts to cast his return to US military control as a crime or improper are not valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:C08C:CB0:79CE:5B73:E036:64BD (talk) 11:27, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
The US would not have recognized Carney's changed nationality, and the Germans won't ever stand in the way. The warrant that would have been issued in the US, would have been valid in Berlin, and even if it was not, the dishonesty and shonkiness of my former compatriots means they don't care. So far the legal 'assessment'. Carney's book arrived here today, interesting to see blackened bits. Another book I have that was redacted chose white spaces, but black and white comes out the same in this context. In Kristie Makrakis' book "Seduced by Secrets" Carney's arrival in Berlin is 1963. I was still there, so that's why I noticed. But this book is 'within the system', judging from the publisher and the author's access to the Kansas prison. 121.209.56.11 (talk) 02:50, 21 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
The German-language article states, partly sourced, that he was given ID papers of the reunited Germany after the reunification (3rd paragraph). It talks about "abduction" and states that German officials were not informed and that the government "protested softly" (4th paragraph). After the press had reported on the case, the government delivered a protest note against the "forceful re-transition" of Carney to the US State Department. According to an internal assessment of German agencies, it constituted "a clear breach of international law": "The law of occupation had run out in April 1991, and the abduction occurred five weeks later" (5th paragraph).
