Talk:Jeopardy (disambiguation)
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'Jeopardy' or 'Jeopardy!'?
editThe name of the show has the exclamation point, so the article should be under that title with a redirect (or disambiguation page) here. I think that's Wikipedia naming convention, and it's certainly common sense. -- isis 05:14 Dec 11, 2002 (UTC)
- I wondered about that when I made the redirect. Wasn't sure what the correct title was. -Jazz77
- Most people looking up Jeopardy are looking for the game show. I'm going to have the title go to the game show with a disambiguation page. Theshibboleth 03:41, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Most people in THE UNITED STATES are looking for the game show. A disambiguation page here is the most neutral point of view. Do not take a short sighted view of things, which is sadly typical of my fellow Americans. Assuming that the American version of anything it what most people among the billions in the world are searching for clearly violates the WP:NPOV guidelines, specifically violating the Nationalistic bias point and additionaly violates most of the points listed at WP:CSB - simply put the American point of view is not a netutral point of view. The article as it stands now violates WP:NPOV as it seems to assume that people know at least what the show is and have at least seen it. The replaced redirect, as much of Wikipedia does, has an American bias, which the editors of this article and related articles simply don't even see they have. Theshibboleth and others who assume that most people would search for the American game show Jeopardy! simply proves this unspoken default bias. Given the chance, the bias needs to be removed as it will not only make Wikipedia have more of a neutral point of view, but may even educate Americans that our country is one of many and we have to get along with people from other places. One step towards greater global peace and understaning is to be more inclusive and take the chance to educate. The American user should find the disambguation list of The Price Is Right, as it will be the most neutral option and will remind them that there are things outside of the United States, something that is really needed, now more than ever. Rekarb Bob 23:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Most people looking up Jeopardy are looking for the game show. I'm going to have the title go to the game show with a disambiguation page. Theshibboleth 03:41, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- I wondered about that when I made the redirect. Wasn't sure what the correct title was. -Jazz77
Requested move
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Jeopardy → Jeopardy (disambiguation) — Requested in order to make Jeopardy point to Jeopardy!, which is the most popular target. Tinlinkin 06:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
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Survey - in support of the move
edit- Support as nom. Tinlinkin 06:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Support: the vast majority of people keying "Jeopardy" into the search box are looking for the TV game show "Jeopardy!". It might be different if Jeopardy (BBC TV series) were still in production, but it was cancelled in 2004. I think that if you key "Jeopardy" into the search box, you should be taken directly to Jeopardy! (the article on the game show) and then at the top of that article there should be a link to the disambiguation page, in case someone was actually looking for the cancelled BBC series, or the episode of NCIS, or the 1983 Greg Kihn Band song. --Mathew5000 07:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Support Most are looking for the game show. Reywas92Talk 17:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Survey - in opposition to the move
edit- Oppose The BBC show is still running syndication and DVD sales. While the US TV show is certainly popular, it is non the less a US-centric bias primary. I honestly think that the legal concept of Jeopardy is the one universial primary but amazingly we only seem to have an article on Double Jeopardy. 205.157.110.11 13:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just out of curiosity, what is the legal concept "jeopardy"? Do people in law really talk about "jeopardy" as something distinct from the typical dictionary definition? Robert K S 16:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think it is more common to hear double jeopardy. Vegaswikian 22:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just out of curiosity, what is the legal concept "jeopardy"? Do people in law really talk about "jeopardy" as something distinct from the typical dictionary definition? Robert K S 16:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
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This article has been renamed from Jeopardy to Jeopardy (disambiguation) as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 13:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Move?
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The result of the move request was: There is no consensus to move the article at this time. ~~ GB fan ~~ 10:38, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Jeopardy (disambiguation) → Jeopardy —
- Let the plain name be the disambig page. The reverse move was agreed hereinabove, but over 3 years ago. Is Jeopardy! as popular as it used to be? Jeopardy! is not shown here in England. If the popularity of Jeopardy! is scaled down in proportion to the proportion of users of the English Wikipedia in areas where Jeopardy! is not shown, does that still leave Jeopardy! as a dominant-enough meaning? To many, "jeopardy" still means "a risky situation" and similar. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is borderline, and I'm only opposing because we don't have an article on the generic concept of "jeopardy". Powers T 15:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not sure about how popular the US game show still is, but it's highly well known, and syndicated internationally. All the other uses are relatively obscure, except Double jeopardy (the legal concept), but that's rarely referred to as just "jeopardy". --Born2cycle (talk) 16:23, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- For the record, the game show is still pretty darn popular. Propaniac (talk) 15:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
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"In Jeopardy" as it related to baseball
editI cannot find a source indicating In Jeopardy only refers to being tagged out. Both from usage I've heard it in and confirming the definition with the MLB rule book's glossary of terms, it refers to any put out. To quote directly: IN JEOPARDY is a term indicating that the ball is in play and an offensive player may be put out.
I'm fine changing my language as it was phrased oddly, but I do believe that the term applies to more than just a tag out. TartarTorte 13:24, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Tagging Fyrael as I don't want to revert and start an edit war, so instead taking to talk page TartarTorte 13:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- I had never heard of this "putout" term before this morning, so I thought it was a mistake. Since it's likely others also don't know this term can we just say "not safely on base" as I just edited? It's best to keep descriptions on these pages as non-technical as we can so people are able to just quickly find the article they want and get all the details in the article. -- Fyrael (talk) 13:29, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Your new language works great! Both accurate and not heavily technical. Thanks :) TartarTorte 13:32, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- "Not safely on base" seems more accurate on top of being less technical, so that's perfect. In jeopardy now redirects to this page as well. The only thing left here is that the "in jeopardy" definition seems out of place on tag out and would probably be more at home on Out (baseball) and/or Base running. WPscatter t/c 16:28, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Most positive reactions I've ever had to a Wikipedia edit, haha. -- Fyrael (talk) 18:36, 12 October 2022 (UTC)