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editHey as much as I like the fact that I'm (Quin Aaron Shakra) cited as a source for this article, someone could do the work and pull Mander's biography information from Mander's book In the Absence of the Sacred which is where i got the infomation that's quoted. It's a more direct source. Jadecricket (talk) 22:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)