Talk:Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Place Clichy in topic Categories in the article


Violation of policy

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It's my opinion, based on the sole source provided and the search I've conducted, that the subject of the article is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. That is a particular concern because the article is not written in a neutral point of view, is not verified by reliable sources, and appears intended to drive traffic to the site. I think that this is grounds for deletion, although I'm willing to give the article creator a little time to prove me wrong on this count. Captainktainer * Talk 06:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


This complaint seems to me to be a form response written without due diligence and holds no merit. There is nothing in the article that is biased about the characterization of the organization. One may think that the what the organization does stems from a particular bias but this an altogether different claim than stating that the article itself is biased. To fail to see this distinction would make an article about Geroge Bush impossible. If the reviewer took the time to visit the website and review the news stories section, the reviewer would see the organization in question is mentioned in the San Francisco Chronicle.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tablaboy (talkcontribs) (03:24, 21 August 2006)

On the contrary, I went beyond the call of Wikipedia policy to look for sources, which is something that you should have done. A tangential mention in a news story about the tearjerking life stories of people who happen to have membership in the organization does not in any way, shape, or form establish notability per policies. If you can find policies that suggest that this article should be kept, I would be most interested in reading them. Captainktainer * Talk 07:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


This shouldn't be an issue. Either write some background on the Jewish refugees or merge the article with Jewish exodus from Arab landsSpanglish 15:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Or create an article on the International Rights and Redress Campaign that incorprates elements of this articleSpanglish 17:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

working on article

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I have begin to work on this article. This group recently was successful at having a US House resolution passed. This, I believe, has caused them to meet the notability threshold. I have also gone ahead and made breaks, sections, etc with the appropriate tags. I am going through the links and will be adding refs. I also added a ref section. Bstone (talk) 19:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.194.15 (talk) 11:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Hi Wikipedians,

I made a slight change --- added some more to the group's Political Activities section reflecting a larger leadership group. Cheers,

User:gc717  —Preceding undated comment added 15:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)Reply 

Categories in the article

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Hello,

Re this edit, where User:Bohemian Baltimore re-added 4 categories which I had judged redundant, here would be my rationale for removing them from this article:

  • Category:Arab-American culture in California : the nearest relevant would probably be Category:Middle Eastern-American culture in California instead rather than the Arab American category, which is for a more specific group. However this category is already present through its grandchild Category:Sephardi Jewish culture in California. I could live with Category:Middle Eastern-American culture in California rather than the Arab-American child, but I still think it is redundant.
  • Category:Arab-Jewish culture: this is a pretty recent category, and I wonder how it scope would overlap with already present Sephardi and Mizrahi categories. I notice that nowhere in the article, or in the organization's website, do they self-define themselves as "Arab Jews" or use a related term. Instead, the website has a large banner stating Preserve and protect the heritage of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, and use wording such as from Arab states and from Arab countries. I therefore think that this term is not defining for this organization and the category should not be there.
  • Category:Zionism in the United States and Category:Zionist organizations: Zionism is not mentioned once in the article.Au contraire, the introduction statement describes the organization as one (emphasis is mine) headquartered in California that is dedicated to the preservation of Mizrahi and Sephardi culture and history, and seeks to educate the public and advocate for Jewish refugees from the Middle East. From the Middle East to California seems the opposite of Zionism to me. And if you consider that every Jewish organization is a Zionist organization, I wonder why we would have two different category trees.

What do other editors think about the value of these categories in this article? Place Clichy (talk) 08:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Reply