Talk:Jimmy Herring

Comments re: this article

I first want to thank whomever put a lot of effort into building the text here, and also thank the person responsible for a gorgeous photo! Having said that, there were a few concerns I have had here:

1. I couldn't find a reference section, so I placed a Notes section. Otherwise, I couldn't reference any of the assertions in the article.
2. In an encyclopedia, the person is not referred to as "Jimmy", but as "Herring". The only exception might be when siblings have the same surname and a distinction must be made as to who it is. Also, I sensed some Peacock words; some POV in favor of Herring. I didn't remove his accolades, but feel someone should look over the article to check for such things. You can talk of a person's achievements in the introduction, and in the closing in a sort of legacy section, if one is called for, but otherwise, some comments about how a person is outstandingly good at whatever, isn't quite right.
3. Is it really necessary to name the schoolchildren Herring played with, as none are notable, and nobody but Herring probably cares about his Junior High School music buddies? Almost every guitarist begins with those "annonymous" school bands where they learn their chops. They aren't usually mentioned, unless they continue in that person's career.
4. I changed the continuous use of future-speak. Like, "2000 would see him creating his own band and playing Tarzan", or, "It would not be the last time he ___" (examples only), but it's a journalistic convention, and should only be used sparingly in Wikipedia I think.
5. Last, I think more inline citations are seriously needed, there are weasel words I didn't remove or question (yet).--Leahtwosaints (talk) 00:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts. Your points are all good ones. In my opinion if you were to make more changes to the article along the lines you're suggesting, that would be appropriate. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with a'lot of the points made above.........I just copy-edited this article.......I also cleaned up some ref stuff. Although the primary contributor as well as User:Leahtwosaints did some good work/made some good points, I've never understood why people put both a "notes" sections as well as a "references" section.....I think I'll work on that and just pull everything into one references section. Anyway, good efforts on everyone's parts!! Buddpaul (talk) 18:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

In some cases, such as this one, the Notes section is for references that are in-line footnotes, and References is for references that are not footnotes. I think that's fine. In general, references are better as footnotes, because that makes it easier to tie specific points in the article to specific references. But a non-footnote reference is a lot better than no reference. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:47, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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