Talk:Job

Yeah, I know it looks horrible, and is barely above a disambiguation page... but I think if you think about it a bit, you will see that this topic needs separate coverage apart from Occupation, Profession, and Employment due to both the role of "jobs" in cultures and history and the increasing trend towards non-traditional styles of working: consulting, contractors, work at home, temp work, outsourcing, etc. I think once this page has some time to mature, with real content and some research/cites, it will prove its potential. --Marcinjeske (talk) 01:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Work is Sacred

Thats why I dont like to touch it..seriously, it used to be anyone could do anything,now they give you so many hoops to jump through just to get the simplest lowest paid jobs. Its bordering on the ridiculous and gone to far. Its now just a way of keeping wages at a level, cause most people can do most jobs whatever jobsworth at the interview says. And working for 5.75 per hour is exploitation. I know an escort who earns that in 3 mins. She said she would feel exploited working as a waitress on min wage. This way the client is. Ha. Shes right. P.S if your nervous at an interview just imagine the interviewer having sex :) or better still start your own business —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.29.45 (talk) 22:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Rename/merge

Job (role) is currently the only Vital 100 article with a parenthetic title. It has been proposed merging with Employment (see the discussion).

Job is a currently disambiguation page. Job (disambiguation) redirects there.

Any opinions on whether Job (role) should be a) merged into Employment? b) moved to plain Job per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? c) left as it is at Job (role)? benzband (talk) 12:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree with moving "Job (role)" to "Job". I've tagged this with an admin help template because I can't move it myself. This one seems entirely uncontroversial. As for merging with Employment, that discussion seems to have died in the face of opposition which, having read, I agree with completely. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:56, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done Miniapolis 15:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

reference to online etymological dictionary

The phrase 'jobbe of work' is not obsolete, only the spelling is - people in parts of Northern England can still be regularly heard to say it. The online dictionary - which is itself of dubious credentials - only suggests that this is one possible etymology of the word.

This whole article is really dodgy, sounds like it was cobbled together by some kids as part of a school project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.136.96.21 (talk) 21:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Job as role

Okay, so if we're going to approach 'job' as 'role' I think we need to include volunteer jobs, homemakers, and students. There are any number of people whose primary occupation on a day to day basis is unpaid but productive work, and that's their job as in role. To me it seems as if we're going to have an article on job as separate from paid employment, the key is that the role being filled by this person in society is their 'job.' valereee (talk) 11:25, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I see the current change to the lead as placing undue weight on what is widespreadly described in definitions as relating to paid work. I have referted it on this basis. Unpaid work is sometimes referred to in definitions as a subsiduary and conditional application of the word, in contrast to the primary meaning of 'job' as a typically remunerated activity. Furthermore adding to this the concept of 'job' equating to 'role in society' is applying a largely abstract meaning to an otherwise functional human activity. Your explanation here appears to reveal that you are expressing personal opinions rather than basing the change you made on reliable sources which outway the definition on which the scope of the article is based.Tmol42 (talk) 15:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Tmol42! The reason for the edit was that the original rationale for this article (Job as role) was to separate it from job as paid employment. See rename/merge above. valereee (talk) 00:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Since when is being a parent a job?

Why is being a parent listed as a job in this article? Saying that a job is equal to your role in society is just wrong. Do newborns have "being a baby" as their job? If I get unemployed does that mean that my job is unemployment?

A job is something you do, most often for payment, but sometimes volontarily. It is always connected to doing something, not a role you have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.248.163.177 (talk) 09:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The point of this article as separate from the article Employment is that 'job' is one's role in society. Employment is a paid role. See earlier discussion. valereee (talk) 22:49, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

The History of Jobs

I'd love to see a section that examines just how long this particular economic 'custom' has been with us. Obviously, the Medieval concept of apprenticeship is tied into that of the craftsman, but that is (at best) more closely related to that of sole proprietorship, while a 'job' is -- or seems to be -- more identified with the factory and the Early Industrial Age.

And if we are looking backwards, it wouldn't hurt to also examine the near future and speculate on just how long the custom is expected to be with us.

Frunobulax (talk) 13:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2019

"Some exceptions are children, retirees, and people with disabilities; However, within these groups, many will work part-time, volunteer, or work as a homemaker."

Please de-capitalize "However" or replace the semicolon with a period. 208.95.51.53 (talk) 13:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done De-capitalised "However". aboideau^talk 14:03, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Criminal jobs

Do criminal jobs (mafia boss, drug dealer) count as jobs or if someone does that for a living are they marked as unemployed (this doesen't include prisoners but what is the occupational status of people in prison now that I mentioned it?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.70.2 (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2020

Prahul6197 (talk) 13:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

(garbage link redacted)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:36, 2 March 2020 (UTC)