Talk:Joe

Include all Joes?

is it really nessicary of possible to list all known fictional and real joes? why do those sections exist?

Good point. --Suffocation90 08:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

This list should serve only to disambiguate things and people which are simply known as Joe. For example, Joe (film), Uncle Joe and Joe 1. I think the other people called Joe, who have surnames, should be removed before this list gets very long. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 08:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

You are probably right according to WP policy, however I think the list is interesting and doesn't do any harm. Steve Dufour 22:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't do any harm, but that's really not a good criteria for deciding what should be in Wikipedia. I've edited the page to include only things and people who are simply known as Joe, as per zzuuzz's suggestion. This is the same rule used for John, and should be used for pages for first names. --74.209.0.29 22:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice work, O Nameless One, I had it on my list to clean up, but you got there first. I had planned to move those with surnames to a new article "Joe (given name)", however, instead of simply deep-sixing them. This would satisfy those who find such a listing interesting, and also provide an outlet for those who feel compelled to add names, instead of having them add such clutter here; in fact, I think I will do so. I generally don't award barnstars to unregistered editors, so please sign up and continue the good work. Chris the speller 20:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I just forgot to log in when I made the edits. --Rumblegoose 02:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Summary: People with the first name Joe, who are not commonly known simply as "Joe", should not be listed here. Instead, see the list at Joe (given name) as a possible place to include them (thanks to Chris the speller). SlackerMom (talk) 13:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Theory

Sorry for the orginal research, but I have been thinking about this and it seems to me that the reason for "Joe" being the name of an average, maybe working class, person comes from two related things. The first is that St. Joseph, the foster father of Jesus, is often seen as an example of humility as well as industry, responsibility and other working class virtues. The second is that Joseph (or Jose) is a popular given name among Roman Catholics, and in England and America Catholics have historically been more often members of the working class. So the nickname "Joe" brings up the image of a humble, hard working man, an "average Joe" in other words. Steve Dufour 22:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2019

Joe Mama - Term used in teen/child talk, Someone may ask who Joe is, Then another one responds with Joe Mama. Mrgogo88 (talk) 15:43, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: There's no article on that subject; Joe mama is a redirect to Maternal insult. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:58, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 20 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is to not move. (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 21:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

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• Joe → Joe (disambiguation)
• Joe (given name) → Joe

– Seems to me like the name is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose, some people might look for an individual with the name, but few are likely to want an article about the name. But even then, by pageviews, the name page is not even in the top five. older ≠ wiser 22:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – per the pageviews, Joe (singer), Joe (2013 film), and Joe (1970 film) each individually get FOUR times the page views as the name. EACH, on their own. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose per the above. There are an awful lot of meanings of "Joe" beyond the name. BD2412 T 02:09, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose we should almost never prefer a set-index about a given name over a disambiguation across all meanings of a term. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν)
• Move User:Dohn joe → Joe. Give me a chance, folks. Make me the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and I promise you won't regret it. Dohn joe (talk) 15:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose per Paintspot, although the name is probably primary by PT#2 its not by usage. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
• Strong oppose per above arguments. Peter Ormond 💬 03:20, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.