Talk:Johannes Trithemius

Steganographia

His most famous work is Steganographia (written c.1499; published Frankfurt, 1606), a work superficially on cryptography, but containing a hidden treatise on black magic; this work lent its name to the modern field of steganography.

More or less copied from Talk:Steganography in the hope of greater exposure:

"I was under the impression that this claim - orginally made by the Catholic Church - had been refuted. It really is about cryptography - or more generally, 15th century information security, since it branches into peripheral areas such as training couriers to memorise messages. In particular, the so-called spells in Book III were shown by Jim Reed to be cryptograms. In fact many sites today invert the sense of the quote above, and say that it is ostensibly about magic but really about crypto. However I don't know all the details, so does anyone know if there are any parts of the book that are definitively about black magic?" Securiger 06:47, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The only stuff I've read about Trithemius is in David Kahn's The Codebreakers, where he says that Steganographia was in three books — the last one in particular contained no reference to cryptography but rather various occult things — and that Polygraphia was his major contribution to cryptography. I haven't heard of Jim Reed's work, is it online? — Matt 09:15, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes. Try [1] for links to articles, and [2] for a news article. Securiger 12:02, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

In fact now I've gone and re-read Jim's article, my uncertainty evaporates; I will edit the article. Securiger 12:18, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

OK Jsimtech

Sources?

There are no sources for any of the information presented in the main body of the article. If the text is to be at all useful some sources would be helpful. Can anyone help? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.192.88.252 (talk • contribs) 11:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• Much of it is referenced at the Hill Monastic library site, which holds several Trithemius first editions. This was one of our external links; unfortunately, the page had moved on that site so the link 404'ed, but I have updated it and you should be able to have a look know. It is a fascinating site if you are interested in incunabula or palaeography. -- Securiger 09:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

First couple of lines

Of most articles about a person, say briefly what their profession was/what they are noteable for. Sort of a summary even of the lead. I thin that's important because I'd only hear the name and knew nothing about him, searched it, and didn't know what he was noteable for before I read all the lead. The lead of this article is possibly too long too.Merkinsmum 00:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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links and connections

Note there is no link to the Paracelsus page, nor is JT mentioned in that article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.172.223 (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Steganographia (part 2)

(As it is many years since the earlier exchange)

'Until recently...' - when? Jackiespeel (talk) 10:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

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