Talk:John Amos/Archives/2013

Did not Quit Good Times

According to: http://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/2011/01/14/tv-legends-revealed-35/

He did not quit the show. The site has a reputation of being well researched, and the creator has written a book. Perhaps the main page should be edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gohmifune (talk • contribs) 16:20, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

ALL ABOUT THE ANDERSONS

he was on this show also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_About_the_Andersons

Football Years

I remember a story about Amos' football days. It was mentioned briefly in a 2003 USA Today article on Hank Stram being inducted into Canton and Amos is mentioned as trying out for the team twice, but never making a final roster. WAVY 10 15:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

John Amos, Howard Stern & Esther Rolle

Anybody have any thoughts about the text that describes Howard Stern's comments about Amos and Rolle? --Richard 00:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• It should be removed, but this guy keeps putting it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wayne shoter (talk • contribs)
• I can tell you that the interview is real; it is always played on "Best of Stern" shows when Howard is on vacation. --68.236.47.165 (talk) 02:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Actually, it was one of Stern's funniest interviews. I heard it when Stern was still on regular (terrestrial) radio. Amos was laughing very hard; he wouldn't directly admit that Esther Rolle was an ugly brute, but he did say it was very hard for him to kiss her without closing his eyes. When watching reruns of the show, look at Amos when he kisses Rolle: His eyes are usually shut, and you can catch the grimace on his face.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.57.219 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 10 February 2008
• The comment should be removed because there is no citation for it. The quoted citation does not support the comment. —Life of Riley (talk) 04:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
• What a waste this world has become. We have the power to do so much as humans, but we decide to use it on making fun of people and being disrespectful. It's not that funny when they are talking about you, your mother or your child is it?.

Shame on those who support comedy at someone's expense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.180.253 (talk) 01:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

• Whether or not you agree with the statement is not the issue. The fact is that the statement was made. This is one of the more famous (or infamous) interviews by Howard Stern. It is constantly replayed on the "Best of Stern" broadcasts when Stern is on vacation. --68.236.16.61 (talk) 16:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Even if you could cite a transcript of this material, the way you present it goes way beyond the bounds of what is encyclopedia-quality material about John Amos. The most I can see as being appropriate for this article is that his interview with Howard Stern remains popular years later. But I don't even see an encyclopedia-quality source for that claim, based on a quick Google search. I certainly don't see any major media quoting from or even mentioning that interview. Unreferenced--putting this material here based on your recollections violates WP:NOR; the wording violates WP:NPOV. betsythedevine (talk) 08:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Sorry, but after reviewing your argument, I find that it lacks validity. It might be your opinion that this statement is not worthy of this encyclopedia, but that in no way gives you the right to remove it. I, like many other users here, can confirm that this interview is constantly replayed on "The Best of Stern" shows. John Amos himself does not dispute it. Therefore, it is very worthy of publication here. It might not be to your standard of decency or civility. However, that is something that users here can judge. Please have faith that Wikipedia users can think for themselves. Thank you. --208.115.91.252 (talk) 21:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
      • Your addition is in violation of Wikipedia policies, which I have cited. Wikipedia readers can indeed think for themselves. Wikipedia content is constrained by policies such as WP:NOR, WP:SOURCE, and WP:NPOV. betsythedevine (talk) 22:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I agree with you. This argument has been going on for over two years. The citation is valid and the issue is clear. There are certain people on Wikipedia who find a need to be "politically correct". I see nothing wrong this post, and I support it. Please refer to the February 17, 2008 comment above made by "Life of Riley". He really said it best, and the fact that he, you , and I have heard this segment on many "Best of Stern" shows just makes this a more meaningful issue. --67.109.178.2 (talk) 22:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
        • I, User:Life of Riley, did NOT make that comment! The comment was made by someone else (probably the above anon) and my signature was forged under the comment. Check the edit history of this page. I left it alone because I did not want to get into an edit war with idiots. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 15:47, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I reviewed the edit history and corrected the signatures, referencing the original post in the edit summary. --- Barek (talk) - 17:05, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

First of all, see WP:VANDAL and stop labeling edits you don't agree with as vandalism - they're not. There's no consensus to add this section that you and you alone have been attempting to add for years which is why you will continue to be reverted. Second of all, throwing the old "politically correct" or "censorship" argument into the ring is a sure sign that you haven't a leg to stand on. Get a new argument or give up the ghost already. The content is not encyclopedic and has nothing to do with Amos' career or his notability. Being praised by Stern is not an accolade in any sense of word, and the repeated attempts to include this content under that guise is transparent and frankly stupid. We all get it, you think Esther Rolle was ugly. Ha, ha, great. It's been years now...move on. Pinkadelica^♣ 22:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Ridiculous. It's a joke, and doesn't belong here. Please stop. Dayewalker (talk) 22:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: The same issues for/against also apply to the Esther Rolle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) article. The community clearly disagrees with this content being added, and it does not belong in either article. --- Barek (talk) - 16:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Nor in the Good Times (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) article. --- Barek (talk) - 18:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I fully agree with Barek above that the information is inappropriate, especially since it has no valid citation. However, this anon—most like the same person—has been inserting this paragraph in the article for nearly four years—always reverted—so he is not likely to stop trying. See this edit dated March 17, 2007 for the first time the paragraph was added to the article. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 20:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Agree with everyone, the IPs additions should be deleted on sight according to WP:BLP, even with one of the subjects deceased. There's no room in an encyclopedia for old jokes. Dayewalker (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Any information on impact on white America?

Being one of the first generations that got most of their information from TV, and , as a white bred mid-western guy, Amos's portrayal of James Evans probably did the most for me toward respecting a black person. Growing up in an atmosphere of racist jokes, dislike for blacks, and the "other side" of guilty whites (including the shows producers) going on at length about the "racial problems", Amos's portroyal cut through all the crap. The portrayal simply was about a guy who was decent, who was the take no prisoners defender of his family, and a guy you just felt bad for though you know he wouldn't take a hand out. More simply put, as a white child (who did come from a family on the leaner side of tracks) in a racist world, the character of James Evans, though fictional, was a man I respected. Is there anything out there that it had the same impact on others? I think it would be a great addition to the topic.12.28.101.34 (talk) 15:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Acually he was said in an earlier episode to get a job on an oil pipeline but in episode 62 in 1976 his cousin invites him to be coowner of a auto shop in Mississippi. They have a leaving the Ghetto party as they are going to leave Chicago. During the party Wilona starts reading telegrams to congratulate them. After one from the Grandfather the open the one that states her husband was killed in a auto accident. The Funeral is episode 63 also in 1976. It was aired 4/6/2009 on T.V. Land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.34.52 (talk) 13:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)