Talk:John Beecher (ice hockey)

Requested move 25 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. In the absence of consensus for a move, revert back to the original long term stable title "John Beecher (ice hockey)" (closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph (talk) 08:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

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Johnny Beecher (ice hockey) → Johnny Beecher – Clearly fits WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. "Johnny Beecher" currently redirects to a jazz musician that used "Johnny Beecher" as a moniker for only two albums in 1962, neither of which are even notable enough to have their own standalone articles. Johnny Beecher the ice hockey player has easily become the more notable individual in this case; a simple Google search ought to show that. Aria1561 (talk) 04:57, 25 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nomination. Sole Wikipedia entry that bears this exact main title header. A hatnote pointing to the John Beecher disambiguation page, where the jazz musician should be listed, would suffice. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
• Support as per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]. Flibirigit (talk) 11:15, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
• Undo undiscussed move and revert to John Beecher (ice hockey). "John" is used by most secondary sources, not "Johnny". [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. Johnny Beecher should, however, be retargeted to point to this article. 162 etc. (talk) 15:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I would say neither John nor Johnny is used more than the other — with these sources here using "Johnny": [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12] — but as far as I know, Beecher himself prefers "Johnny" to "John". Aria1561 (talk) 00:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• Revert back to John Beecher (ice hockey) per 162. That was the long-term stable name, and I see little evidence that sources prefer John over Johnny.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:16, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
• I don't have a particular opinion regarding John vs Johnny, but Support dropping the "(ice hockey)" DAB per PRIMARYTOPIC. The Kip 02:43, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Apparent consensus to move somewhere. No consensus as to where. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Ice Hockey has been notified of this discussion. estar8806 (talk) ★ 03:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

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