Talk:John C. England

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 06:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that John C. England who died heroically after saving three other sailors in the sinking of the USS Oklahoma (BB-37), only received a Purple Heart, but had two ships named for him? Source: here and there

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Laura J. Richardson
• Comment: There is a pending AFD discussion, which should be resolved in due course.

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (talk). Self-nominated at 01:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• AfD happily resolved. Looks good, except -- Earwig pings a potential copyvio. Do you know what's up with that? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 07:37, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Vaticidalprophet Thanks for the review. I've heavily copy edited out the problem. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Persistent myth

The "Persistent myth" paragraph smacks of WP:OR. Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:53, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Agree completely. It looks as if it was added by someone with an axe to grind, who joined up for that reason only. I've removed it as unsourced and unencyclopaedic. The Navy named two ships after the guy for a reason. I noted what was in the article before the "persistent myth" change and found a source that supports that account. I've re-added, but also re-worded for brevity and to avoid close paraphrasing. The source may not be the best RS, but as of now, it's the only source this bio has. - wolf 05:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Also agree. "In point of fact," it isn't a persistent myth. His efforts to save other crewmen is a matter of record, as is his receiving the Purple Heart as the only award for it. I added the reference for this. See the Naval History and Heritage Command on the sinking of six Japanese submarines.--KMJKWhite (talk) 17:36, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Sources

• After Years as ‘Unknown’ Heros Remains Rest with Parents in Colorado Springs August 24, 2016 Stephanie Earls Gazette
• Los Angeles Times Gold Star Mother May 10, 2019
• The Reemerging Story of Ensign John England Pearl Harbor Visitors Bureau The Reemerging Story of Ensign John England
• Oklahoma Historical Society The USS Oklahoma
• U.S. Oklahoma Battleship Pearl Harbor
• The Oklahoman Obituary: John C. England August 21, 2016 December 11, 1920 - December 7, 1941
• National Park Service USS Oklahoma casualties identified May 8, 2019
• PEARL HARBOR 75TH ANNIVERSARY
• May 7, 2019 Runnels County Register Bill Hancock World War II veteran killed at Pearl Harbor laid to rest.
• TALES FROM THE ‘WE’ GENERATION
• John C. England Naval History and Heritage Command
• Naval History of Missouri May 6, 2016 Heritage, People, Platforms

Attribution

Text and references copied from USS England (DE-635) and USS England (DLG-22) to John C. England, See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Text and references copied from USS Oklahoma (BB-37) to John C. England. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:45, 29 January 2021 (UTC)