Talk:John Callahan (cartoonist)

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I don't want to litter the article with {{fact}} tags, but can someone source these critical reviews of Callahan's work? Yes, his work has been admired by many -- today's Oregonian has an article on B6 quoting Bill Plympton on Callahan -- but a Wikipedia article should reflect expert opinion, not provide it. -- llywrch (talk) 15:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Hello, I've added a sentence about the new biopic by Gus van Zant on Callahan. I've also added a slew of links for terms in the main article which were not linked yet. Alphast 17:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphast (talk • contribs)

Article Lacks Basic Information About Callahan's Personal Life

In Callahan's memoir DON'T WORRY, HE WON'T GET FAR ON FOOT, he refers numerous times to his pain and frustration at knowing nothing about his biological parents. He is obsessed with the notion that they didn't want him, "threw him away." When he finally is able to get information about his mother, and learn the dire circumstances in which she decided to give him up, it is a healing experience for him. Because of the importance of this matter to Callahan, the article should have included it.

Callahan also had several good friends, and some longtime romantic relationships. These too should have been mentioned, because they were important to him. The article respectfully records his accomplishments as a cartoonist, but needs to present the full range of his success in relationships. Some were personal, but he was also one of the best-loved local characters in Portland. 23.121.115.9 (talk) 14:24, 14 February 2019 (UTC) Younggoldchip (talk) 14:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

You have contributed suggestions for article improvement to Talk pages for a considerable time. If you have access to reliable sources that contain the information you want added to this article, would you not like to make those improvements to the article yourself? DonFB (talk) 20:45, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

The appropriate person to add needed content to an article is the one who originally wrote it. It is part of his job, which is to do a full and accurate treatment of the subject. Younggoldchip (talk) 13:42, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Surely you know that's not so. To coin a phrase, anyone can edit Wikipedia. Perhaps you've not seen a well-worn recommendation on this site: wp:SOFIXIT, which has these words, in boldface, no less: "Fix it yourself instead of just talking about it." DonFB (talk) 16:22, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

I absolutely disagree. Perhaps anyone can edit Wikipedia, but most shouldn't. Is the original writer such a fragile little teacup that he resents legitimate suggestions? And is he too lazy to act on them? Why did he write the article in the first place, if he wasn't going to do it right...or at least, make it right? I've seen good articles vandalized. The original contributor should be given a chance to fix things himself. Younggoldchip (talk) 17:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Your philosophy is impractical for many articles, such as, for example, World War II. Your write as if you're unaware that this site is designed for articles to be produced by multiple author/editors. Meaning no disrespect, but as you seem to have knowledge of the requisite resources, are you too lazy to fix things? DonFB (talk) 00:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

DonFB, as you know, cartoonist John Callahan is not World War II. Different subjects call for different treatment. I admit that I do think of the originator of an article as the author, and not a member of the team. And have noticed that busybodies are far too eager to put their oar in, at the slightest excuse, often with dubious changes. It seems to me that the best strategy would be to allow a generous and lively Talk page with plenty of suggestions. Let the verbiage roll. And if the originator ignores it, and does not improve the article, THEN we jump in. Younggoldchip (talk) 17:53, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

You can contribute any way you wish of course. If you prefer to be a Talker and not an editor (though WP wants you to be), keep in mind an "author" might not act because he is dead, retired, on break, lost interest, busy on new articles, or lacks resources you have (but don't use). DonFB (talk) 01:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Right! I will be on the lookout for backward, bone-lazy or dead authors, and will then leap in to shine. WHEE! Thank you. Younggoldchip (talk) 14:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)