Talk:John Gregorson Campbell

GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 21:37, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Really interesting topic.

• "A Bean Shìth, or fairy washerwoman as Gregorson Campbell defined it,[1] had cast a spell on his father's ancestors proclaiming "they shall grow like the rush and wither like the fern."[2]" Whose belief was this? Campbell's? His father's? Also, be aware of MOS:LQ

It's not really very clear (to me anyway) in the source, so I've added it was in a memoir based on information gleaned from his sister.

• Presumably, the "Duke of Argyll" would be George Campbell, 8th Duke of Argyll? Worth a link, if so.

Now linked.

• In the "Folklore collections" section, you twice note that Gregorson Campbell "continued to add to his collection" without actually mentioning any dates. This doesn't quite work for me.

I've added 'around 1858' for the recuperation; the second one was a little harder but I've re-worded very slightly and added late 1800s.

• "Celtic Review" Worth a redlink? Also, other mentions on other articles refer to The Celtic Review; same publication? Which is correct?

Glad you queried that - on checking, I discovered that although Nutt lists Celtic Review as the publication, the title page is actually Scottish Celtic Review, so I've added a note to reflect that. According to the National Library of Scotland, it seems to have only been published for a few years, 1881-1885. I honestly don't know if there is a publication Celtic Review but as NLS list it as Scottish Celtic Review I've followed that.

Just a note for general information really - I was looking something else up and discovered there is indeed a separate publication titled Celtic Review that was produced 1904-1916. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:14, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

• "How the great Tuairisgeul was put to death"- If this was an article in a periodical/short story, it should be in "speech marks", not italicised. Is the story worth redlinking?

I've amended that and also changed "Sir Olave O'Corn".

• Perhaps an origin category? A 'People from...' category?

I've included him in 'People from Argyll and Bute' - I realise it's probably not ideal and should be a subcategory instead but one doesn't seem to exist for Kingairloch.

• While the images are PD in the US, they'll have to be PD in the UK/Scotland to be hosted on Commons (if that's where the books were originally published). If you have reason to believe they're PD in the UK, please add tags to the image page; otherwise, perhaps upload them locally with {{Do not move to Commons}}?

My knowledge about image licensing is not as good as it should be, so I sought advice and have added PD-100 and PD-anon-1923 to both the originals and the cropped versions. I see you are an Admin on Commons, so please let me know if I've done this incorrectly?

Interesting article. A look around online suggests that there aren't actually thousands of sources out there; nonetheless, this does seem to cover the bases. Also- please double-check my changes. J Milburn (talk) 21:37, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking on the review J Milburn and for the copy edits. I will work through your much appreciated comments as much as I can this morning but I'm expecting a lot of to-ing and fro-ing at home today. SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Take as long as you need. J Milburn (talk) 10:04, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

J Milburn, I think I may have addressed all your comments above, so whenever you get the chance, it would be great if you could have another look, please. Re: the redlinks - they're something I'm always pretty undecided about as I (personally) don't like using them until I have a stub/start more or less ready to go; of course, I'm more than happy to include them if you feel they are appropriate though. SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:12, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

• Ok, quick comment on redlinks leading into something else. WP:REDLINK specifies that "Red links for subjects that should have articles but do not, are not only acceptable, but needed in the articles." I'm always surprised that this is an unpopular guideline! I was going to go ahead and add a redlink to Kingairloch, but, looking at Google Maps, no settlement by that name exists; there is a Kingairloch Estate and a Kingairloch House- do you mean one of them? J Milburn (talk) 16:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

That was the problem I had when I was trying to work out a Category for People from ... the only information given is Kingairloch, Argyll. I tried to pinpoint it a little further but only came up with this historic reference to it and as the ref isn't properly specific, it looks as if it might have been an old parish type name? Possibly no longer in use? SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Interesting. It's obviously not uncommon for small rural settlements to have local names which don't correspond to anything "official", or for minute settlements to go in- and out-of-existence for various reasons. I'm happy enough that this article is not inaccurate, and, looking at a map, I'm happy that we couldn't just say the nearest town's name- there doesn't seem to be any towns nearby. As this is basically the last issue I have, I'm going to go ahead and promote the article. Great work! J Milburn (talk) 13:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

As he was a folklorist, I have placed the article in Wikipedia:Good articles/Social sciences and society#Culture and cultural studies. I have no objection to you moving the article if you think there is a better home for it elsewhere. J Milburn (talk) 13:38, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review and help on this, J Milburn, it's very much appreciated! SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:41, 17 July 2014 (UTC)