Talk:John Leveson-Gower, 1st Earl Gower

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Mike Christie in topic GA Review

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The article on Adams Grammar School, Newport, (in Shropshire) lists this nobleman as an alumnus of the school but I see no corresponding details of his education (he was surely of background to afford public school/university) in this biographical article. Citation and indication of years attending the school would be appreciable.Cloptonson (talk) 16:14, 19 April 2012 (UTC) I have found evidence (Complete Peerage and Oxford DNB) that he DID attend Westminster School and Oxford University. Details are entered in this article but I wait on evidence for his attending Adams Grammar School.Cloptonson (talk) 18:53, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wrong Earl mentioned in section Intelligence during French Revolution

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The 1st Earl Gower had died in 1754 before the French Revolution began; the Earl Gower who became ambassador to France in 1790 was a later generation Earl. I will check the latter's article before dealing with the misplaced section here.Cloptonson (talk) 21:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 21:48, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply


I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:48, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

The images are appropriately tagged; sources are reliable.

  • We give his birth date twice, differently, in the lead.
    • We did? "I, too, serve the Soviet Union." In all seriousness, I've rephrased that particular paragraph to remove the date; what do you think?
      It looks fine -- but we still have the 10 August date in the first sentence and 9 August in the "Early life" section. You're tempting me to mention the Ministry of Truth now. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
      Oops, that was a mistake. Fixed.
  • "As noted by English historian Richard Wisker": do we need to attribute this inline? It's not controversial. And we say it again later in the article; same question there, though perhaps the statements are more matters of opinion in those cases.
    • Removed entirely, probably for the best...
  • "led by Henry Pelham and the 1st Duke of Newcastle": I think we should say either that the Duke's name was Pelham or that he was Henry's brother or both; it's in the lead but not in the body.
    • Made some changes to make it clearer
  • Can we name and perhaps link or redlink the regiment he raised in 1745?
    • My sources don't specify which exact regiment it was. The most they say are that it was a "loyal" regiment of foot (which would usually indicate a British Army regiment, though no regiment appears to have been raised by Leveson-Gower...); most likely it was a Staffordshire Militia regiment, though without any specific information either way I cannot say for sure. What do you recommend I do?
      No need to do anything; it was just if we happened to have the information. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • "In 1747, a protest by a group of English Jacobites at the Lichfield horse races": not an issue for this article, but it surprises me that in the aftermath of 1745 Jacobites would have been safe from official retaliation if they came into the open in this way.
    • Well, that is what the source says...
  • "Despite mounting levels of criticism": why was he criticized?

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:36, 5 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Earwig shows no problems. I'm unable to do any spotchecks as I don't have access to ODNB so I'll assume good faith; if I get access I may come back later to do a couple of spotchecks. Just the date issue left. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Last issue fixed; promoting. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:36, 8 September 2022 (UTC)Reply