Talk:John Lewis (computer scientist)

Requested move 14 October 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to John Lewis (computer scientist). per discussion (non-admin closure) –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:51, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

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John Lewis (educator) → John Lewis (computer science educator) – Ambiguous with John Lewis (headmaster), amongst other articles. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 01:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 22:13, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

• Whilst I agree in principle, the new title should be John Williams (computer scientist) John Lewis (computer scientist), which is what he actually is and a more concise title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

  @Necrothesp: Don't you mean John Lewis (computer scientist)? --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 15:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

  Yup, too many Williams and Lewises! -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

  Does the subject's notability have any connection to work in computer science outside of education? I considered proposing John Lewis (computer scientist) but was apprehensive for the same reason that I wouldn't suggest that an article about a secondary-school physics teacher use the disambiguator "(physicist)". If the subject's notability extends beyond education, however, I would be whole-heartedly supportive of "(computer scientist)". 207.161.86.162 (talk) 02:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

  We don't call academics a "physics educator" or a "history educator" because they happened to teach physics or history at university. We call them a physicist or historian. University academics have very different roles from schoolteachers - they all do research and writing as well as teaching. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:24, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

  Is writing and research part of his academic role in this case though? Given that he is titled as an adjunct, I wasn't sure that we could assume that. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 02:35, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

• Contrary to what Necrothesp says, in academia, we do often call academics in some subject X an "X educator" when their primary contributions to X are in instruction or pedagogy rather than in research or practice. See Category:Computer science educators. But disambiguators should be as simple and general as possible and "computer scientist" is simpler and more general than "computer science educator", so I think it's a better choice in this case. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:43, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
• Support John Lewis (computer scientist) per David Eppstein. He might be notable as an educator, but he's a computer scientist first and foremost. (Alternatively, I'd suggest Not that John Lewis!, since half of the article is devoted to his identity being mistaken.)No such user (talk) 08:54, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

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