Talk:John Mākini Kapena

Things still missing

Kapena was considered a great orator, giving great speeches and the coronation of King Kalākaua, and the laying of the cornerstone of ʻIolani Palace.

Carried crown of Lunalilo during procession Marshal of the Household in the coronation Detail of death to expand

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GA Review

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Reviewer: HaEr48 (talk · contribs) 02:58, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Will look at this. HaEr48 (talk) 02:58, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Overall, nicely written and referenced. I cross checked some sources and the info in the article seems to check out. No neutrality, copyvio, or OR issue detected. Images are appropriately tagged. Some concerns about lack of details and some small suggestions, see below:

• Suggest adding reign years to kings when they were first mentioned, e.g. since the reign of King Kamehameha III (r. 1814 – 1854), etc.

• Added for the non-obvious ones, mainly the Kamehamehas.

• Suggest reorganizing paragraphs in #Early life and family to avoid overly short ones. According to MOS:PARA, "The number of single-sentence paragraphs should be minimized, since they can inhibit the flow of the text" and in WP:PARAGRAPHS, "One-sentence paragraphs are unusually emphatic, and should be used sparingly."
• "In 1870, Kapena became the editor ": This seems out of order because the next section starts in 1864. Or is there a specific reason?

I am going to make that a separate section.

• Kalākaua appointed Kapena as a member of the Privy Council of State and the Governor of Maui: Add a date for this?

• Done.

• Given that he was Minister of Finance twice and Minister of Foreign Affairs once (all totalling 7 years), any details on what his actions or policy were during these times? (other than rejecting the already mentioned annexation of Gilbert Islands)

• Yeah I need to do more research.

• The list of appointments and positions held by Kapena in this article is excellent. However I feel in general, I suggest more details in order to make the article less dry and more informative. Any detail on his actions as governor, newspaper editor, commissioner of various posts, postmaster general, etc? Or his activities during the state visit to the US - did he continue his previously mentioned opposition to cessation of territory?

• Yes I agree.

• Are you going to add "things still missing" you identified here? Talk:John_Mākini_Kapena#Things still missing?

• Yes but not in this review, so see message below.

• Is there anything that can be linked in "Lodge Le Progres de L'Oceanie and the Hawaiian Lodge"? Or mention what they are? (presumably two Masonic lodges)

• I am red-linking Lodge Le Progres de L'Oceanie since I think User:Maile66 is creating an article on it

• Would it be appropriate if "Masonic rites" is linked to List of Masonic rites?

• Added a link to Masonic rites.

• John Mākini Kapena with John Lota Kaulukoʻu and three Hawaiian students: Mention which figure is him in the picture

• Done.

• Mention the country of Order of the Rising Sun to make it consistent (other foreign honors mention the country)

• Done

• Kapena died at his residence at Peleula, Honolulu: any indication of what? 44 seems pretty young.

• To be expanded.

Looking forward to your response. Thank you. HaEr48 (talk) 01:54, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

@KAVEBEAR: do you plan to work on these? HaEr48 (talk) 19:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes I plan to get to it. Will do it this weekend.KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:45, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I went ahead and crossed out the non-controversial review suggestions. I am looking at this and there are too many gaps in knowledge about this man that require more concentrated look at the primary sources. What he did during the 1874–75 state visit? Details about his career as a newspaper editor. Details about his specific government policies. Better organization of the career section. Withdrawing review. KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC)