Talk:John Steckley

Seems pretty notable, but what do I know...

I don't know anything about this subject at all, but he sounds pretty significant to me. Couldn't find a link to discussion for deletion, but I was curious so I had a quick Google (filtering out all the book websites) and found plenty of stuff about him. It seems obvious that to a student of the Huron people and of Native American culture & dialects in general, he's probably pretty notable. I've added the "Indigenous peoples of North America" wikiproject link as it seemed pretty relevant. Now I'd better get back to wondering how the heck a British fashion history cove like me managed to end up here... Mabalu (talk) 11:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

This is just a WP:PROD delete, basically saying as the article currently stands it's not showing any reason for notability. You can "If you can address this concern by improving, copyediting, sourcing, renaming or merging the page" as the header says. If you found any reliable secondary sources to establish his notability, rewards, published papers in established journals, etc.. then those references can be used to improve the article and establish notability. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 11:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the explanation. I decided to add in some of the stuff I found while Googling, and also had a stab at tidying the look of the article a bit, although I feel a bit of a fraud as it is SO outside my usual fields. (Must be mad!) I did find references to academic reviews/refs of his work in journals and academic publications eg [1] [2] but someone with access to those would have to look those up. For now, I don't think there's very much more I can add. Mabalu (talk) 12:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

So long as those fall within the criteria of a peer reviewed journal, I suppose. The second link looks a bit shady although it's at a .edu. Thought for a second I time warped back to 1997. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 13:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The final decision will come down too whether or not he meets the criteria listed here: Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 13:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Those two references are "book reviews." I'm not sure this would constitute enough for criteria #1 for academic notability, and I don't think it would apply under the other conditions either. Without reading those reviews it's hard to say. I also know nothing about this field of science, myself, so I have no idea what the "major" journals are for it are. So far I haven't seen anything that makes me think hes anymore notable then the thousands of other college professors out there. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 13:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Nor do I, apart from the Huron language thing, which does sound pretty major. My guess would be that he deserves a paragraph under the page for that language, if that's all he is really known for. Mabalu (talk) 15:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

If we have/had an article for the Huron language he would be mentionable there, but that alone doesn't grant him enough notability for his own page, I think. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 23:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Which apparently we do, and he is mentioned on it. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 23:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Bibliography

A source needs found for a Bibliography, just a list of things without any references or idea what they are (books, papers, whatever), won't do. — raeky ^{(talk | edits)} 04:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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