Talk:John Wimber
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Archived old content
editI archived old content from the talk page since much of it was several years old. It can be found here. DoctorG (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Updating references
editI've been reading up on John Wimber and will be taking some time to clean up the references in this article as well as addign some more content over the next few weeks. DoctorG (talk) 19:59, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
So much of this article is uncited, and/or the citation numbers only lead to footnotes that are also uncited. I'm going to try to find quality citations and/or modify the content so that it meets wikipedia standards. DoctorG (talk) 16:59, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
OK, I think I got all the footnotes out of the reference section and reformatted them into a usable format, though incomplete because some information was missing from the footnotes. This should at least give a good starting point to figure out if the references are quality sources. DoctorG (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Doing some research today and discovered that the Institute for the Study of American Evangelicals(ISAE) closed their doors in 2014. Some of the references in thsi article point to an old ISAE page that no longer exists so we need to fix those links or find new references. I'll look in the internet archive to find some of it and try to fix what I can. DoctorG (talk) 15:49, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
I cleaned up the section that had lengthy quotes and realigned the references to match the content. DoctorG (talk) 23:54, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
operating in the gifts of the Spirit
editoperating in the gifts of the Spirit - can someone please translate this into proper Queen's English? The whole phrase is not understandable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF11:DD00:48E9:3CA4:AEAC:FEBB (talk) 01:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- It's charismatic/pentecostal argot for behavior or phenomena believed to be representing the capacity, as described in the New Testament, to speak languages the individual has never formally learned, to put one's hands on sick people and make them well, to prophesy about things--usually future things--that the speaker cannot know, etc. In other words, to do things that a person cannot possibly do by natural ability, but by a miraculous ability that God gives them.
- It's difficult to describe or characterize these phenomena with any great clarity, since they vary from sect to sect and even church to church; at the extremes, physically handling venemous snakes would be considered an integral component of a congregation's praxis, other factions confine themselves to quiet glossalalia, or formulaic 'prophesying' by an individual congregant, at the end of a sermon, prayer, or hymn.
- It's a minority Christian belief-system that started around the turn of the previous century with the rise of pentacostalism, with proponents claiming documentable precedence before that. JohndanR (talk) 21:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Ancestry research
editIt seems close to impossible to establish a family tree for the late Mr. Wimber. The family name is German. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF11:B200:E9A6:376A:6397:2AC3 (talk) 00:12, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Pastor Wimber's Career
editThis article badly needs description of Wimber's career. During what years was he a Vineyard pastor? As I recall, he was fired or somehow otherwise involuntarily left the denomination. What did he do then? The article simply ignores a large part of his career. editeur24 (talk) 16:55, 26 November 2022 (UTC)