Talk:John le Taverner

Wycombe?

The article originally identified Taverner with the MP for Wycombe in 1338. This seems quite unlikely to me - it's 43 years after he first sat in Parliament, and 30 years after he was first Mayor of Bristol, so he would likely be very old. It also seems a bit unlikely he'd move to a completely different borough seat a few counties away - not impossible, but given the time difference as well it seems a stretch. The Parliamentary History of Gloucestershire doesn't mention anything for him after 1322 (when he was still "burgess of Bristol"), and the Wycombe history doesn't give any biographical hints to support the connection. Given this, I've removed the reference to Wycombe for the time being. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:26, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Maybe it is his son? John is quite a common name. Sahaib3005 (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

@Sahaib3005: I think the odds are they were unrelated - "le Taverner" is derived from "the innkeeper" so we would expect to find a scattering of Taverners all across the country, and as you say John was such a common name in the period that finding two wouldn't be surprising. The History of Parliament 1386-1421 has two William Taverners, for example - one Lyme Regis 1417 and one Leominster 1397-1407, plus a Thomas in Rochester and Aymer in Lichfield. None are identified as related (the Leominster William is marked as maybe the son of a William Taverner who represented the same borough in 1368-1378, but even then they're cautious). Andrew Gray (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

@Andrew Gray: As the book doesn't mentioned him being MP in 1322, then it is probably a different John le Taverner as well.Sahaib3005 (talk) 02:14, 24 July 2021 (UTC)