Talk:Jonathan Hatami

Discussion of added content

@TheaEskey and @Snowcactus0, you two can discuss here before heading back to the dispute resolution noticeboard. Please keep it civil. Philipnelson99 (talk) 05:25, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Jon Hatami ran for Santa Clarita City Council in 2012. He was a Republican. He got 5th place. What exactly is untrue about my additions. It's all accurate. Snowcactus0 (talk) 19:57, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

It doesn’t conform to the standards of Wikipedia, accurate or not is not the conversation I do not want anything on this. It doesn’t confirmed the standards of the site that I had to subscribe to when I was writing this thing in the first place. I don’t know how to make this any clearer for you. TedEskey (talk) 21:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. TheaEskey (talk) 23:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@TheaEskey and @Snowcactus0 both of you need to stop wp:edit warring on this page immediately. Discuss before reverting each other again. Philipnelson99 (talk) 20:00, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I haven’t reverted him since. And as I keep explaining to him he is using both sourcing and language that doesn’t conform to the standards of Wikipedia I have linked him to the proper way to source and right on Wikipedia and he refuses to do so so it this point he needs to be dealt with it because clearly he doesn’t wanna collaborate with me to get what he wants published in a way that conforms to the standards of the site TedEskey (talk) 21:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I have told him multiple times that I have no problem with the Contant coming in provided direction forms to the standards of Wikipedia. If it doesn’t conform to the standards of Wikipedia, it can’t come in. It’s that simple. TedEskey (talk) 21:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

You manually reverted the edits once since I warned you both against edit warring. Please just discuss this here and talk it out instead of adding and removing each other's edits until the end of time. Philipnelson99 (talk) 21:38, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I reverted the edit he made after you instructed him not to make anymore. I don’t want biased poorly sourced things sitting on this page while this guy decides if he wants to collaborate or not. If that’s edit warring so be it but I’m not going to have something of poor standards just lying around. Either standards matter or they don’t. TedEskey (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

I told you both not to make anymore edits until you discuss it on the talk page and come to an agreement. I put edit warring message on both of your talk pages. Philipnelson99 (talk) 22:21, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This is what I’m demanding. Which is at the header of the page. If the content can conform to this then I will be fine with it coming in. As it is currently written it does not . TheaEskey (talk) 23:45, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

So this either means something or it doesn’t. TheaEskey (talk) 23:46, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Uninvolved comment: TedEskey and TheaEskey, how are you two related to eachother? Your usernames are very similar. Yoshi24517 (Chat) (Online) 00:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

We’re not… I’m not the only one with the last name eskey in the world. TheaEskey (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Interesting. And you both are interested in Jonathan Hatami? Interesting. Yoshi24517 (Chat) (Online) 01:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Whatever. I don’t care what you think. I don’t know anyone named Ted Eskey. You can either accept that or not I don’t care. TheaEskey (talk) 01:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

If you want to contribute to this discussion feel free. If you’re just here to hurl baseless accusations at with no proof you can see your way out. TheaEskey (talk) 01:24, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, checkuser here. Ted and Thea are  Confirmed and blocked. -- ferret (talk) 01:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Honestly I’m so confused by all of this. There is nothing in my update that is untrue. the problem is that Thea is supporting Hatami’s run for DA. He used to be a Republican & he made all these statements verbatim. I tried to link to the actual forum clips on YouTube, but I’m new to Wikipedia & wasn’t able to figure out how to cite to YouTube, so instead I linked to another article that has the same info.

Please advise. Snowcactus0 (talk) 03:15, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I reviewed the article history, including before the AFC was accepted. I found that another editor tried to add this information before, and Thea removed it. This was before the first AFC decline for lacking a neutral POV. The POV pushing has continued. It seems these are pretty indisputable facts. The language might possibly need tweaks, but I don't see an immediate issue with the sourcing or claims. -- ferret (talk) 03:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate your opinion. Snowcactus0 (talk) 03:22, 23 November 2023 (UTC)