Talk:Jonathan Hill

Requested move 27 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: Move. We have clear consensus that this subject is the primary topic of the name. Cúchullain ^t/c 13:55, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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Jonathan Hill → Jonathan Hill (disambiguation) – The European Commissioner Jonathan Hill, Baron Hill of Oareford (generally known as Jonathan Hill in Europe) is clearly the primary topic of Jonathan Hill (for one thing, he has articles in 23 Wikipedia editions, whereas all the other Jonathan Hills seem relatively obscure and have no interwikis. Therefore,

1. the current disambiguation page Jonathan Hill should be moved to Jonathan Hill (disambiguation)
2. Jonathan Hill should redirect to Jonathan Hill, Baron Hill of Oareford, and
3. Jonathan Hill, Baron Hill of Oareford should have a redirect template ("Jonathan Hill redirects here. For other uses, see Jonathan Hill (disambiguation)". – Tataral (talk) 13:02, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

@Tataral: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

• But how often do people need information about him? How long is he likely to stay in office? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Surely Tony Blair has not lost his notability due to leaving office. We are talking about a senior British politician, a former leader of the House of Lords and Britain's sole current European Commissioner, with articles in 23 Wikipedia editions, versus a handful of completely unknown people with very short biographies only in one Wikipedia edition; a clear case of a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. For example, Jonathan Hill (architect), has an average of 6 daily readers, compared to Jonathan Hill, the politician, who has had thousands of readers (over 17,000 readers on 25 June) during the last week, and an average of around 400 daily readers before the news of his resignation and recent surge in media coverage. --Tataral (talk) 18:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support. Jonathan Hill, Baron Hill of Oareford is the primary topic of Jonathan Hill according to page views.[1] --Editor FIN (talk) 10:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support: page views seem convincing. PamD
• Is this person found in https://www.google.com/#tbm=bks&q=%22Jonathan+Hill%22 ? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 22:59, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
• Weak support as there is a clear element of recentism here. Since the start of this month the European Commissioner has been getting an average of 1306 hits per day [2], but since the start of this year that figure drops down to 313 per day [3]; compare this to the last six months of 2015, where he was only getting 60 hits per day [4]. That said, he still looks like the primary topic to me, but it's not nearly as clear cut as it first seems. PC78 (talk) 23:38, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 26 August 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 19:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

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Jonathan Hill (disambiguation) → Jonathan Hill – Per WP:DABNAME ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 14:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:34, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

• @Neveselbert and BarrelProof: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:34, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
• This appears contrary to a 2016 RM discussion recorded at Talk:Jonathan Hill (disambiguation). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

  Recent page views would indicate that there is no long-term primary topic. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:58, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

  That is a good argument you can make in an RM discussion. Indeed, consensus can change, but a discussion is needed. You shouldn't just overturn a declared consensus without holding a discussion. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:45, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support as nom per pageviews. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. There are eight men listed upon the Jonathan Hill (disambiguation) page and the British politician is no longer the primary topic. Losing a recentism-based primary spot is not unique, especially for politicians — American Scott Walker (politician) was briefly in the news, became primary at Talk:Scott Walker#Requested move 13 July 2015 and lost his primary status a year later at Talk:Scott Walker#Requested move 9 August 2016. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:43, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

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