Talk:Jordan Murphy (basketball)
Latest comment: 4 months ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic GA Review
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GA Review
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Nominator: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs)
Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 20:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I'll take this review. It will be used in the WikiCup and the ongoing backlog drive.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
General comments
edit- The article seems very unbalanced. On the one hand, you have the first two sections, which are cited, precise, and detailed (perhaps a little too much?) On the other hand, the subsections of the "Professional career" section are woefully lacking in detail, with some no more than a few words.
- As it stands, this situation contravenes MOS:LAYOUT, as MOS:PARA advises against subsections for short paragraphs and single sentences.
- However, there are also issues with GA criteria 3a) and 4. I would expect this article to contain significantly more detail on Murphy's professional career; it also appears to be WP:UNDUEly weighted towards his college career: that section has 820 words of prose, whereas the "professional career" section has just over 200.
- I would thus recommend searching for references on Murphy's professional career, or, if that does not prove fruitful, removing the subsections to comply with MOS:LAYOUT.
- Once that large work has been done, I will perform the source spotcheck and scan for remaining issues. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- User:AirshipJungleman29 How is that?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:46, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Superb work! One last thing: the "G League–Leones de Ponce (2021–2024)" subsection is now very heavy on short sentences and dates. I would recommend combining some of the sentences, especially those about the Spurs->Leones de Ponce moves. Otherwise, very nice. I'll do the spotchecks shortly. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Almost every sentence has a date associated with the roster transaction in the sentence. Combining sentences would not really alleviate the association of the date with each roster transaction. Thus, we would have compound and complex sentences with multiple dates.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have rewritten that section myself; I feel it is now much less stop-start, but feel free to revert.
- A last thing I noticed: although not specifically part of the GA criteria, per MOS:NUMERAL numbers less than nine should be spelled out in letters, but you should not use both letters and digits for comparable values near to one another.
- So, for instance, "On the strength of 7 consecutive double-doubles for the 2017–18 Minnesota Golden Gophers, he won the first three" should be changed to seven to match the three
- "Murphy was one of 7 Big Ten athletes" should be seven in letters.
- "23 points, 11 rebounds and six assists" should either be "23, 11, and 6", or "twenty three, eleven and six".
- You may wish to scan through the article to check for further errors. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have corrected a few more. Also check the article for the following from MOS:NUMNOTES: "Adjacent quantities not comparable should ideally be in different formats". So for instance, "a February 11 17-point/11-rebound effort" will need to be adjusted either to "a 17-point/11-rebound effort on February 11" or "a February 11 seventeen-point/eleven-rebound effort".— Preceding unsigned comment added by AirshipJungleman29 (talk • contribs) 16:53, March 22, 2024 (UTC)-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have corrected more.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- "(#19/21) Iowa" is, I suppose, basketball jargon; I have no clue what it means. Similarly for "2012–13 Men's All-District V (OH, IN, IL, MI, MN, WI) Team". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- For the former I have linked to the weekly rankings at 2018–19 NCAA Division I men's basketball rankings.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:32, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed artifact typo regarding the latter.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Do you need me to link the U.S. State abbreviations in th latter?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I see; no I think that should be understandable to most people.
- Also, the article says nothing about his early (pre-middle school) or personal life. Is anything available in RS? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have added what I could find. There are a ton of Jordan Murphys in the basketball world so he is a bit hard to research.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Understandable. Do keep in mind what I said about MOS:NUMNOTES ("Adjacent quantities not comparable should ideally be in different formats") above. Once those issues are done (although not strictly GA criteria) I think I'll promote this nomination TonyTheTiger. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have added what I could find. There are a ton of Jordan Murphys in the basketball world so he is a bit hard to research.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Spotchecks
editA randomly chosen seven citations. Numbers represent the citations of this revision.
- 4 good, although I had to find an archive link to access the website
- 19 good
- 30 good
- 31 good
- 34 good
- 50 good
- 55 good
Spotcheck passed! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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