Talk:José María Heredia y Heredia

"y Heredia" ?

Where does this "y Heredia" come from? The Spanish article doesn't mention that name. The French article calls him José María Heredia y Campuzano. This web site, about José-Maria de Heredia (José María’s cousin) and his family, says José María Heredia’s mother was named Mercedes Campuzano. Švitrigaila (talk) 11:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

1) Campuzano, was the "second" last-name of Heredia's mother. (Those of you familiar with the Spanish tradition of surnames would know about using at least 4 last names, a tradition not totally abandoned today, but much less frequent. Specially important was this convention at the time, regarding families of distinction like the Heredias'.) The first last-name of José María's mother was Heredia also, since she was married to her cousin on her father's side, therefore the full name of the poet is correctly stated José María de Heredia y Heredia.

2) As for the assertion in this article that Heredia was arrested, this a mistake. Heredia was somehow informed ahead of time about capitán general Vives' intention to proceed against those involved in the Conspiración de los Soles y Rayos de Bolivar, lead by José Francisco Lemus, and like the very Lemus escaped on time. Heredia hid in a hacienda near Matanzas under the protection of a close friend, the father of the sweet girl Heredia calls "Emilia" and to whom he later on dedicated some of his poems written in exile. Some have even suggested about Heredia and Lemus' escape among others, that Vives' men on his instructions "leaked" the information as a "political compromise" or easier solution to a crisis of large proportions. Not only was the conspiracy well organized but it is said that Vive's spy system, which was large and reliable considered it at least politically compromising since it covered from Havana to Puerto Príncipe (currently Camagüey). Others affirm that el capitán general was not a blood thirsty tyrant after all and preferred his cock fights and corruption schemes to the killing of a large number of prominent Cubans. By revealing that he knew all there was to be known about the conspiracy, and by arresting a number of the participants he disarmed a time bomb. His repressive response was counterbalanced by political and other considerations. Heredia did not escape from Cuba immediately but after some time. He did so in a ship destined to Boston where he arrived in winter. His famous poem "Himno del desterrado" was written aboard this ship, hence the verses that make a reference to "el pan de Matanzas" name of a well know elevation in the region, not "a mountain" as some scholars have suggested. In my novel "Lo que dura el estío", which takes place roughly between 1820 and 1826, I fictionalized some of these facts after careful documentation. I am currently publishing chapters of this novel on my blog "El hilo de la trama".

Although known mainly as a poet and playwright, and now generally accepted as the first to write in the Romantic style in the Spanish language, Heredia is also an extraordinary literary critic —well informed and ahead of his contemporaries—, and last but not least, the author and translator of several short stories, long before any other known author in Spain or the Americas cultivated this genre. For evidence of this assessment the reader may visit the site of Ediciones La gota de agua where information on two books of stories and the research that made those volumes possible is offered. Those books' titles are José María Heredia, Cuentos y relatos and Cuentos Orientales. Rolando Morelli, a Cuban writer, editor and literary researcher is both the editor and publisher of these titles as well as the writer of the present notes. (68.81.237.238 (talk) 04:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC))

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