Talk:Josef Ng/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Kingoflettuce (talk · contribs) 20:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 09:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

A rather short article.

CE suggestions:

• "Around 02:00 on 1 January 1994" – I guess this must be 24 hour time. Would add that it is local time.

Done KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

• "He was fined S$1,000." – add USD value.

Not sure this value-adds the article and might border on OR (not mentioned in source either). KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

• "who were seated 10 to 15 metres away" – would add conversion to feet using Template:Convert

Done KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

• "Ng's prosecution was negatively received by members of the local performing arts community." – Are there others' views of the performance? You only seem to highlight Tommy Koh.

Tommy's comment was more of a qualification of the generally negative reception ("no one from NAC witnessed Josef Ng's performance") and I didn't think it'd be necessary to give a laundry list of the negative opinions especially from non-notables. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

• Is there anything else known about Josef Ng before Brother Cane? Like family and so on? Seems this article was created largely because of his performance. It might not actually meet WP:CRIME in terms of notability since this is a one-off event and could actually be under an article Brother Kane or 5th Passage.

Otherwise, the article is sufficiently well-cited. Earwig doesn't show immediate issues beyond a few direct quotations. But I'm unsure about the notability of this article given it's rather short and focussed more on the Brother Kane incident. Putting on hold.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey ZKang, appreciate the review. I believe I really plumbed the depths of the internet to find all publicly-available scrabs of info I could get on Josef but I don't think too much of his personal life is known outside of the Brother Cane incident. Still there is sizeable coverage of his post-Brother Cane career and I'm confident this passes the GNG barrier (though it's worth noting that notability technically isn't a GA criteria...). Made some of your proposed changes. Thanks! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

After reconsidering, unfortunately while the article is in really good shape and well-cited, this person was only notable due to WP:BLP1E and his post-life was not as significant. I feel there isn't sufficient coverage for the person himself to become a GA. I think, however, since most of the coverage about this guy is about the performance Brother Kane, then the article should be about the performance instead. So, I'm sorry to say that this article fails to meet the GA criteria as it's not broad enough in its coverage. Consider moving the content to Brother Kane instead.--ZKang123 (talk) 00:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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