Talk:Josephinism
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Forced Serf Labor in Central Europe
editRegarding sentence "For many centuries, the majority of the population of Central Europe had lived as serfs, laboring under feudal obligations to Lords."
As far as I know in the Czech Crown lands prior to the Battle of White Mountain majority of population were free small-holders. This sentence needs to be reviewed not only regarding the Czech Crown lands, but also other places. Was the serf status imposed only on Czechs, or was the change in 1620s similar also in other Habsburg countries?Cimmerian praetor (talk) 10:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
I replaced the word 'Robota' in some instances because I was finding it ambiguous and without a clear meaning.
As for the issue of serfs, it seems they might have out numbered the other people. Feudalism was widespread, so the same conditions will have been present in many countries. Where the subject is forced serf labor there might be places where the masters were not burdening their serfs with an unreasonable amount of work. This might put them outside the scope of the article. RCNesland (talk) 11:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Joseph Franz Anton, Graf von Auersperg
editI believe that knowledge of Joseph Franz Auersperg, Graf von Auersperg may clarify some things about Josephism. I noticed there is material in German but I do not understand much German. It appears that Joseph Franz Anton was a Bishop and a strong supporter of Josephism. I prefer the spelling 'Josephism' rather than 'Josephinism' with one reason being that Josephinism seems feminine relating to a Josephine. RCNesland (talk) 11:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
"Catholic historians have claimed" in "Catholic Church in Habsburg lands"
editThe statement that "Catholic historians have claimed that there was an alliance between Joseph and anti-clerical Freemasons." is referenced by an article by Herman Gruber from 1909 out of the Catholic Encyclopedia. I'm sure that's true, but is that relevant unless it's also claimed by significant numbers of more recent Catholic historians? 195.169.52.25 (talk) 11:37, 18 January 2023 (UTC)