Talk:Jouy-le-Moutier

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Where did you see that Saint Martin-des-Champs = Port-Royal? olivier 05:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Whilst everyone enjoys edits it must be noted that you could make an effort in formating both your edits and discussions. It is approrpiate to explain edits and I also notice that all your edits seem to be marked as minor edits (cf Special:Contributions/Olivier). As cited in the reference section Port Royal is St Martin des Champs, there several Port Royals as well as St Martin des Champs so perhaps there is a missunderstanding on the name or origin of the place:

Jouy le Moutier, cartes postales et photographies anciennes, 1985, Mairie de Jouy-le-Moutier / Imprimerie Serag à Saint-Ouen-l'Aumône.

Perhaps more transparency in your edits as it is difficult to justify edits which are rarely explained. Thank you for your help in categorising photos I have uploaded on the Commons. Captain scarlet 07:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree that I am not giving much explanation for my edits, but most of them are really about fixing typos or formatting, or more recently the addition of a link to the Commons, which are, I believe, legitimately tagged as "minor" edits. I certainly agree with your point: there are several "Saint-Martin-des-Champs", but you should recognize that your reference, which is not exactly easy to check, hardly gives a hint as it is currently written, that Port Royal is in fact the Saint-Martin-des-Champs you are refering to. Besides, neither the English nor the French Wikipedia article about Port Royal mention this. In any case, thanks for your feedback. olivier 09:43, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Olivier, Port Royal is usually refered to as St Martin des Champs due to its situation in the middle of nowhere, I've just had a look at the article and it does seem to be incomplete, unfortunately my references and knowledge only cover Jouy le Moutier, not Port-Royal so I'd hesitate before making changes. The convent then centre of political and religous stir was a centre for cistercians to spread their beliefs. The article does seem to cover these points just not the name as there is a discrepancy between names although my sources point to St Martin des Champs it is not the St Martin described in the Wikipedia article but Port Royal in Chevreuse. If there is confusion it would probably be best to keep Port-Royal for both link name and link destination although it would be inaccurate. Captain scarlet 09:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Fine. Let's leave it this way for the moment then. I know that the Port Royal of Chevreuse was also called Port-Royal-des-Champs to distinguish it from the one in Paris, but otherwise I am not familiar enough with the topic to assess any relationship with Saint-Martin. Cheers. olivier 05:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Eschenradus

The second sentence in the History section reads "Two charters by Charlemagne to the bishop of Paris, Eschenradus gave the chapter of Notre Dame de Paris the possession of the church of Andrésy." Can anyone document the existence and identity of this "Eschenradus"? Apparently the name has been in the article since this edit more than two years ago, but I do not see any "Eschenradus" in the Bishop of Paris Wikipedia list. Furthermore the Jouy-le-Moutier website, which is otherwise copied word-for-word from Wikipedia, omits this name. The Catholic Encyclopedia is nonplussed. A Google search turns up nothing but borrowings from Wikipedia. I am going to delete the name, but obviously it should be restored with a reference, if anyone has one. 24.36.74.15 (talk) 02:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

A footnote addressing this has been added to the article by Captain scarlet (Talk). 24.36.74.15 (talk) 23:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)