Talk:Judd Apatow

Apatow-style where art thou?

I do not observe the existence of any references to the "Apatow Style" anywhere on the internet (and usually you can find just about anything somewhere on the internet). Furthermore, no references have been provided for the introduction of a novel subcategory such as this ("The Apatow Style").

Currently there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding sexism and discriminatory practices within Apatow's films. This section seems to be somewhat reactionary to such accusations. It appears to have been written by someone who either really likes his movies or quite possibly shared a dorm room with him in college. Why is Apatow being credited for films he didn't even create, and by whom? (I don't think the directors, producers, writers, etc. of other films would like to be associated with he sexist accusations being leveled against Apatow.) JTWoodsworth (talk) 08:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Email bit

Too long and prominent for a minuscule part of someone's biography. BabuBhatt 21:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Not encyclopedic. A one sentence summary with a link to the Harpers' article would be sufficient should editors feel that this even belongs here (which I don't, by the way). Piperdown 23:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Former Roommate with Adam Sandler

Judd stated this on the Late Show with Jay Leno May 22, 2007

Sexism Section

Two days ago someone deleted the entire sexism sections....

Whoever did this noted that I was making "negative" comments against Apatow. There are many positive comments, and I don't think that a little bit of balance is at all inappropriate. Over the last few months, I have contributed a lot to this section, along with many others, and I believe that it is extremely well documented and footnoted.

If anyone wants to argue the validity of these references or provide additional references which contradict the facts provided, I will not try to delete such references.

The section isn't perfect, but I don't believe it deserves to be expunged.

In it's current incarnation, the section reads:

Revision by 69.138.91.92 at 16:37, 17 February 2008

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.91.92 (talk) 07:19, 24 January 2008

I don't know who deleted this section the first time, but I just deleted it (along with the "pro-life" section). After looking at the Knocked Up article, I realized both sections were copied and pasted from that article. Reading these sections, one can tell that they both are about the press and others accusing the film Knocked Up of being sexist or having pro-life themes -- not Apatow. Unless you can find specific instances of people accusing Apatow of being pro-life or sexist, those sections don't belong here. They belong in the Knocked Up article... where they came from. Pele Merengue (talk) 07:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. 69.138's additions were first reverted by Erik and then by me. A director's biography is not for copy-pasting film-centric content from a film article. Prolog (talk) 18:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

A similar section has again been added to the article, [[1]], and I don't think it is appropriate. Framing a whole section and multiple subsections in terms of Criticism, instead of critical or academic analysis of his work and themes seems like Non-neutral approach to a encyclopedic biography article. (The section also fails to offer any counterpoints, I'm sure Apatow must have responded to at least some of those criticisms, but rather than searchign for those responses I think the whole section is taking the wrong approach.)

A more appropriate section would be to explore the Themes of his films, and with the release of The King of Staten Island it has become clearer that theme of "immaturity" is a consistent through-line in his work (with characters becoming struggling and progressing by the end of the films) . The criticism of Apatow is a reflection of those themes, and it be a lot more fair to judge his work in terms of what he was trying to do and if he succeeded or not. (There are still plenty of arguments to be made that he variously did not succeed and that his work has at times been unfunny flabby and overlong.) -- 109.76.212.43 (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I find the "Criticism" section problematic as a whole. It seems like a WP:COATRACK approach that violates WP:STRUCTURE. I was going to say it should be folded into the "Career" section, but it is pretty loaded and sorted chronologically. A better overall approach would be an overview-type section assessing Apatow's approach to his comedy films. It seems like that could encompass whatever commentary has been had about that as a whole. That would include aspects like sexism, for which I do see some reliably-sourced coverage for summarizing discussion. I don't know if I would call it "Themes", but themes could fall under that kind of overview. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:55, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

The book 100 Entertainers Who Changed America: An Encyclopedia of Pop Culture Luminaries has numerous solid pages about Apatow's career as a whole. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:03, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I was already leaning toward reverting it but wanted a second opinion. I asked the person who (recently) added the Criticism section to join the discussion.[2] I'm still inclined to revert the entire Criticism section. -- 109.76.212.43 (talk) 22:48, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Looking at it more closely a revert wont work, more extensive changes would be necessary. I see that User:The_One_I_Left moved a few things around (making it difficult to see what really changed), and took a subsection called "Debate" and moved it up into a top level section called "Criticism", but did not substantially change the content that was already included in the article. -- 109.76.195.183 (talk) 19:07, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Expanding / explaining template

I came across this template:

{{Mediocre American Man Trilogy}}

There isn't any word on Wikipedia about the so-called Mediocre American Man Trilogy, so I thought maybe here someone could help out. --Soetermans (talk) 23:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

The mediocre american trilogy is a trilogy by Will Ferrell. There are multiple sources. Just looked it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrStrangelove64 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

What?

For anyone else wondering what this was supposed to mean I will try to explain. See also Talk:Talladega_Nights:_The_Ballad_of_Ricky_Bobby

Basically while publicizing Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby Ferrel mentioned that Anchorman and Talladega could be thought of as the first two parts of a trilogy and that they would have to make a third film (they haven't). Those were both Apatow produced Ferrell/McKay films.

Move along, nothing to see here. -- 109.76.212.43 (talk) 18:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Superfreaks?

Since there was no cite with the "superfreaks" mention, I searched for a while and have been unable to find any mention of "superfreaks" being the new "frat pack." I have never heard of "superfreaks," period. If it is reinserted, there needs to be citation. And whoever coined the term needs to be rapped on the knuckles, because it sounds stupid. 69.255.233.222 (talk) 03:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

First, sign new comments on the bottom of the talk page. Second, what the hell are you talking about? --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 07:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ghostbusters 3

Aptow is not the producer of Ghostbusters 3, so I have removed it from article [3] magnius (talk) 17:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Trilogy

Apatow created a trilogy with 40-Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up, and finally Funny People. He represents three stages of life; Sex, Marriage, & Death. I noticed him referencing this on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart on July 29, 2009. It was nowhere on the page, so I thought I'd put it here. If anyone has more info and wants to add it to the page. Feel free.

07:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

71.61.197.18 (talk) 07:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

"comedy-style films"

From the article: "He is best known for producing a distinct series of critically and commercially successful comedy-style films,...".
I think "comedy films" or "comedies" would be better. Agreed? Thanks Kvsh5 (talk) 20:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Judd gets lucky enough to meet ShayCarl

Shaycarl is a famous video blogger and he has two channels. 1 for skits and the other for daily video blogging. On the 26th of september judd apatow bumped into shaycarl while shay was video blogging with his family in a shopping mall. Judd was so excited to meet shay he asked if his family would like to join his for dinner but shaycarl didnt think he was serious and left him waiting at the restaurant oops shays bad. anyway the shaytards youtube channel has 131,678 subscribers and he gets millions of views on each video. Heres a link to the video where judd meets shay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxzwwaW6L-s&feature=channel_page . I think this is very noteworthy because shay is very well known on the internet and since wikipedia is part of the internet it must do its duties and report what happened on this glorious day. I dont know how to put my signature on the end of these so i'll sign off with my name paul donald :D

Error in awards section.

The article mentions that Judd was nominated for a Grammy for co-writing the song "Walk Hard" in 1999; the movie and song didn't come out until 2007!! Error? Or blatant sabotage?

Key and Peele to work with Judd Apatow on Untitled Universal film

Source: http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/key-peele-partners-team-with-judd-apatow-for-universal-pitch-deal/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.110.5 (talk) 06:58, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Apatow doesn't have a Producer credit for "Can A Song Save Your Life"

I've found no information that supports that he does indeed have a producer credit for Can A Song Save Your Life?. He is simply an Executive Producer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.110.5 (talk) 07:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

1st of all Honor and congratulation about the success of trainwreck. I found this very epic movie that belong to my personal life exp. and also I found so cured about this movie to get my next moves. Again thanks to make this kinds of things. Hope you prosper day by day.. and get in the deep thoughts of your valuable audiences. GRACE.'--19:17, 6 November 2015 (UTC)Tanvir Sharif (talk)

encourages violence against Donald Trump supporters.???

Judd Apatow (/ˈæpətaʊ/; born December 6, 1967) is an American political commentator that encourages violence against Donald Trump supporters.

I don't think this a legitimate entry sentance, looks more like someone trolled this article... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip Edward (talk • contribs) 14:15, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

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This is 50?

I was hoping you would make another movie like This is 40 to let us know what's happening with everyone and the new baby? Chili's mom (talk) 07:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Clear up confusion about Apatowverse?

On Rose Byrne’s Wikipedia page, a quote is given: “Byrne's emergence as one of the brightest stars in the Apatowverse…” The word Apatowverse redirects to Judd Apatow’s Wikipedia page, but I do not see anything about it. Can this either be added on his page or deleted as a link on hers? Jhurley85 (talk) 15:18, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Factually incorrect information with regards to Apatow's award nominations

3 EMMY WINS (It currently says 2 EMMY WINS)

1993 Primetime Emmy Awards Won, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Writing in a Variety or Music Program for The Ben Stiller Show (1992)

2018 Primetime Emmy Awards Won, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special for The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling (2018)

2022 Primetime Emmy Awards Won, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special for George Carlin's American Dream (2022)

13 EMMYS NOMINATIONS (It currently says 11 EMMY NOMINATIONS) 1993 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated & Won, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Writing in a Variety or Music Program for The Ben Stiller Show (1992)

1994 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Comedy Series for The Larry Sanders Show (1992)

1996 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Comedy Series for The Larry Sanders Show (1992)

1997 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Comedy Series for The Larry Sanders Show (1992)

Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Writing for a Comedy Series for The Larry Sanders Show (1992) For Ellen, or Isn't She?

1998 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Comedy Series for The Larry Sanders Show (1992)

2012 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Comedy Series for Girls (2012)

2013 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Comedy Series for Girls (2012)

2017 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Series for 30 for 30 (2009)

2018 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated & Won, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special for The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling (2018)

Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Directing for a Documentary/Nonfiction Program for The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling (2018)

2022 Primetime Emmy Awards Nominated, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Directing for a Documentary/Nonfiction Program for George Carlin's American Dream (2022)

Nominated & Won, Primetime Emmy Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special for George Carlin's American Dream (2022)

1 GOLDEN GLOBES WIN (It currently says 0 GOLDEN GLOBES WINS)

2013 – GIRLS – Best Musical/Comedy series – Judd was an EP on GIRLS so any series wins count as a win for him.

6 GOLDEN GLOBES NOMINATIONS (It currently says 1 GOLDEN GLOBES NOMINATION)

2008 – WALK HARD: THE DEWEY COX STORY – Best Song – Motion Picture – Judd was co-songwriter

2012 – BRIDESMAIDS – Best Picture – Musical or Comedy - Judd was a Producer on BRIDESMAIDS so any film nominations count as a nomination for him.

2013 – GIRLS - Best Musical/Comedy series – Judd was an EP on GIRLS so any series nominations count as a nomination for him.

2014 – GIRLS - Best Musical/Comedy series – Judd was an EP on GIRLS so any series nominations count as a nomination for him.

2015 – GIRLS - Best Musical/Comedy series – Judd was an EP on GIRLS so any series nominations count as a nomination for him.

2016 – TRAINWRECK – Best Picture – Musical or Comedy - Judd was a Producer on TRAINWRECK so any film nominations count as a nomination for him.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taliaapatow (talk • contribs) 17:37, 3 August 2023 (UTC) 

There are some inconsistencies with the Awards section of the prose. It only shows one Emmy win currently. —C.Fred (talk) 17:48, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

@Taliaapatow IMDB is not a reliable source for anything beyond cast lists. —C.Fred (talk) 19:07, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @C.Fred

Please note the updated references that I've included below. Would these be sufficient to make the changes on the page?

I'm also including a link from the official Emmy's page which lists Judd's nominations and wins: https://www.emmys.com/bios/judd-apatow

At the very least these changes should be made on the page. Taliaapatow (talk) 16:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

References