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After the Islamophobic remark below, recently Pearl has stated support for Zionism

Here's an example: https://twitter.com/yudapearl/status/1766732986136076535

Fustbariclation (talk) 19:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Prevent edit war over recent controversial tweet

I added a recent controversial (to say the least) tweet of Pearl's to the Views section. In this tweet, Pearl called the first two Muslim women in the US Congress "two morally deformed weeds", clearly showing islamophobic tendencies. The edit was 8 days later undone by editor Nargothrond1 without any discussion. Another 8 days later I restored my version including the islamophobic tweet. In order to prevent an edit war, I open the discussion here. Maltimore (talk) 07:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

You need to go read WP:BLPSELFPUB. We can only use self-published sources (such as the subject's tweets) for uncontroversial claims about the subject himself, not for his opinions on other people. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:27, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@David Eppstein: I assume you are referring to point 2 "it does not involve claims about third parties". Fair enough, I guess saying that two Muslim women are "morally deformed weeds" is a claim. Though I would rather call this an opinion rather than a claim. A claim for me would be something more concrete like for instance if Pearl *claimed* that Tlaib and Omar have connections to terrorist organizations. Do you really think his opinion here is a claim? Maltimore Maltimore (talk) 13:31, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I believe that the intent of that rule is that we only use self-published sources for non-controversial factual statements about the subjects themselves. This tweet clearly does not qualify for multiple reasons. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:49, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Did any secondary sources pick up on this tweet? I can't find any. If it didn't lead to any consequences, then I'd say its below the threshold for inclusion here. XOR'easter (talk) 17:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll accept (both) your opinions on this. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this with me. Maltimore (talk) 14:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC)