Talk:Judith Baragwanath

Judith Baragwanath images removed from this page

I propose reinstating the images removed from this page. The fashion photographer Max Thomson has kindly released his copyright for images for this page. This is a rare gift to Wikipedia and its users. With respect, I feel removing his images from this page doesn’t send a helpful message to other professional fashion photographers who wish to contribute. These were incredible vintage images of enormous interest in their own right: they added much to this page - (the clothes! The 70s motorbike!) - including a sense of the eras nascent fashion photographic style encapsulated by this model’s work. Many Wikipedia pages have more than three images, including biographies. To compare this to a profile of another model ignores the other aspects of this person’s life which tells us much about Auckland in the 70s - 80s, illustrated in these remarkable photographs. (Fashion muse, socialite, face of her era). Tahatai (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Please don't. You need to read Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Images#Pertinence_and_encyclopedic_nature. Having seven images on the article is primarily decorative, and most certainly distracting. The article is about a woman, not a photographer's work, not about Auckland in the 70s-80s, and certainly it does not exist to "send a helpful message to other professional fashion photographers who wish to contribute." Moriori (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Images debate

Thanks for the link. I am perfectly satisfied that these images are “significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative.” (For the reasons I have already mentioned.) They are certainly “an important illustrative aid to understanding.” These images are not smartphone or pap shots. (Unlike so many portraits on Wikipedia). They are an aid to understanding this woman and her place in the 60s and 70s fashion era. They are of the very highest quality: which only enhance Wikipedia’s role as an actually useful resource. I am a MSM designer. I would use these images gratefully. If I checked the Rachel Hunter page (or the others you mention) I would sigh and go back to getty images.

These pages all have more than three images - none as interesting or as high quality as the ones you have removed (by the way). David Gandy (British model) Calvin Harris (Scottish DJ) Javi Martinez (footballer) Ki Sung-Yueng (football player)

Tahatai (talk) 00:33, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Tahatai. I think it best to get a second opinion from an experienced editor. Consequently, I have asked User:Gadfium to have a look. See here. If he says I was wrong to trim seven images down to three, I will revert my removal. Cheers. Moriori (talk) 01:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

I think it is inappropriate to have so many images directly in the article, but I have added a link to the category on Wikimedia Commons. Three images seem about right, but as a compromise I suggest Tahatai could add back a fourth. As fashion is not at all my area of expertise, I have no opinion on which images are best to display.-gadfium 02:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Fine. I said I would revert, but suggest Tahatai choose the one to be restored. Tks Gadfium. Cheers Tahatai. Moriori (talk) 03:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Images debate

Thanks. I will restore one of the images as you suggest. Tahatai (talk) 01:16, 11 August 2019 (UTC)