Talk:Judith Reisman/NPOV

This page is being created as per Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Judith_Reisman to help bring the JR article into good WP:BLP compliance. -- Limulus (talk) 10:07, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Based on my reading of WP:NPF, the infobox should go. -- Limulus (talk) 10:07, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

The text of the lede is probably good, but the refs need to be re-read and altered accordingly. -- Limulus (talk) 10:07, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

References

Here we will discuss the quality of the various references. -- Limulus (talk) 05:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

IMHO, I have identified the following four ref groups (see below) as the most reliable to form the basis of a rewritten article:

• AlterNet (basically as a 'RS for uncontested facts')
• Books/Journals (I would avoid those w/o online copies; difficult to verify)
• Magazines
• News/AP

The article is going to take a major size (and likely quality) hit by generally avoiding her self-published sources (and WND), but this is probably what we should do for Wikipedia:BLP compliance. -- Limulus (talk) 08:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

AlterNet

See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_86#Alternet; the comment "Looks to me like their material is mostly op-ed and so they are an RS for attributed opinions and for uncontested facts." seems to offer the most guidance. -- Limulus (talk) 07:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.

Christina Larson (8 December 2004). "The Joy of Sexology". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2010.

Jacob Sullum (8 December 2004). "From Donuts To Heroin". AlterNet. Retrieved 29 December 2010.

Annalee Newitz (30 November 2004). "Your Brain on Porn". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.

Cristian Bodo (18 December 2008). "Does Sex Addiction Have Any Basis in Science?". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.

Seems to just mention Guardian's 2005 "Sex on the brain"; redundant/unnecessary. -- Limulus (talk) 07:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.

Books/Journals

For good verifiability, we should probably just use ones that we can confirm online. -- Limulus (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Trento, Susan (1992). St. Martin's Press. pp. 193–200. ISBN 9780312083199. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help) Relevant excerpt: [1]

Jones, James H. Alfred C. Kinsey: A Life. New York: W. W. Norton & Company Inc, 1997. p. 851

Carol, Avedon 1994, Nudes, Prudes and Attitudes: Pornography and Censorship, New Clarion Press, Gloucester. p. 116. [2][3]

Watts, Steven (2009). Mr Playboy: Hugh Hefner and the American Dream. Wiley. p. 375. ISBN 9780470521670. Retrieved 21 November 2010.

Reisman mentioned briefly in TOC, but those pages are unavailable online. This ref (used mostly about 7-Eleven halting sales of Playboy) is probably unnecessary with Trento available.

-- Limulus (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Denfeld, Rene. The New Victorians: A Young Woman's Challenge to the Old Feminist Order. New York: Warner Books, 1995. p. 110

Bolton, Robert (1989). "The cultural contradictions of conservatism". New Art Examiner. 17. Retrieved 01 January 2011. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

Meyer, Richard (2002). Outlaw Representation: Censorship and Homosexuality in Twentieth-Century American Art. Beacon Press. pp. 216–218. ISBN 0807079359.

Multimedia

Videos of Judith Reisman in the C-SPAN video archives.

This one should definitely be kept in ext links IMHO. -- Limulus (talk) 08:44, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Flickr image set including Reisman with Shelley Lubben (of the Pink Cross Foundation) at the 2011 AVN Adult Entertainment Expo (see also [4]).

Probably should drop as it is a blog-type thing (Wikipedia:BLOGS says "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.") -- Limulus (talk) 08:44, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Biographical entries

Looks like NNDB probably shouldn't be used as a ref for BLP (Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_101#NNDB, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_26#NNDB, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_3#NNDB) seems to be OK for ext links though. -- Limulus (talk) 08:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Judith Reisman/NPOV at IMDb

Judith A. Reisman entry on SourceWatch

"Alfred Regnery". NNDB. Retrieved 17 November 2010.

"Footnotes--July–August 2008 Issue--Obituaries". ASA Footnotes. American Sociological Association. July–August 2008. Retrieved 28 December 2010.

(Refs specifically related to Arnold Reisman and the divorce)

"Cleveland Jewish News > Archives > Life Cycles > Deaths > REISMAN, ARNOLD". The Cleveland Jewish News. 21 April 2011. Retrieved 23 June 2011.

Grant Segall (20 April 2011). "Arnold Reisman was an engineer, management professor, sculptor and author: obituary". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved 23 June 2011.

"Ohio Divorce Index". Ohio Genealogical Society. Retrieved 23 June 2011. Searched for Arnold Reisman in Cuyahoga County; the single result listed was a divorce from a Judith (born '35) with a decree date of "07/10/79" after 25 years of marriage.

It looks like we should not use this one; as per Wikipedia:BLPPRIMARY "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses." -- Limulus (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

by Reisman or interview:

As per Wikipedia:BLPPRIMARY, "Exercise caution in using primary sources. [...] Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies." -- Limulus (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia:SPS, "Anyone can create a personal web page or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources. Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. Take care when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else will probably have done so." (emphasis added) Reisman says she is an expert in certain things, but that is SPS. -- Limulus (talk) 07:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia:BLP#Using_the_subject_as_a_self-published_source, "Living persons may publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites. Such material may be used as a source only if: it is not unduly self-serving; it does not involve claims about third parties; it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources." -- Limulus (talk) 08:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

"About Dr. Reisman". Dr. Judith Reisman. Retrieved 14 November 2010.

Judith A. Reisman, PhD (June 21–26, 1981). "The Scientist As Contributing Agent to Child Sexual Abuse; A Preliminary Consideration of Possible Ethics Violations" (PDF). Dr. Judith Reisman. Retrieved 12 December 2010.

""Kinsey Crimes & Consequence" Errata". Dr. Judith Reisman. 3 June 2006. Retrieved 24 November 2010.

Judith Reisman (14 October 2009). [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=112791 "Playboy targets kids by stripping Marge Simpson"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 19 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

"Erototoxin". Retrieved 17 November 2010. (index of articles)

Michael F. Shaughnessy (12 July 2010). "Interview with Judith A. Reisman: Something Rotten in the State of Montana?". EducationNews.org. Retrieved 17 November 2010.

"Interview: Dr Judith Reisman". 8 October 2006. Retrieved 29 December 2010.

Bobby Maddex (Spring 2007). "The Naked Truth: An Interview with Dr. Judith Reisman". Salvo (magazine). Retrieved 21 December 2010.

Judith Reisman (23 April 2007). [http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55338 "Cho's erototoxic addiction"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 21 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

Statement of Judith A. Reisman, Ph.D., President, Institute for Media Education (November 18, 2004). "The Brain Science Behind Pornography Addiction and the Effects of Addiction on Families and Communities" (PDF). Testimony before the United States Senate, Subcommittee on Science, Technology, and Space of the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Retrieved 17 November 2010. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Judith A. Reisman, Ph.D. (April, 2005). "All PORNOGRAPHY IS HOMOEROTIC" (PDF). Retrieved 19 June 2011. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

"Kinsey, Sex, and Fraud". Google Books. Retrieved 22 November 2010. Search results for heterophobia in Reisman's Kinsey, Sex and Fraud.

"The Pink Swastika (Reviews)". Retrieved 1 January 2010. Quoting Reisman: "As a Jewish scholar who lost hundreds of her family in the Holocaust, I welcome The Pink Swastika as courageous and timely...Lively and Abrams reveal the reigning 'gay history' as revisionist and expose the supermale German homosexuals for what they were - Nazi brutes, not Nazi victims."

Judith Reisman (1 April 2009). [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=93528 "GLSEN and the Hitler Youth"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 29 December 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

Strickland, Ronald (2002). Growing Up Postmodern: Neoliberalism and the War on the Young. Rowman & Littlefield. p. 136. ISBN 978-0742516519. Retrieved 1 January 2011. quotes Reisman from "Promoting Child Abuse as Art" in the 7 July 1989 edition of The Washington Times.

"The Kinsey Coverup". Judith Reisman. 16 October 2010. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

Judith Reisman. "Kinsey and the Homosexual Revolution". Archived from the original on 15 January 2008. Retrieved 18 November 2010.

Judith Reisman (Spring 2010). "What Is to Be Done?". Salvo (magazine). Retrieved 21 December 2010.

Judith Reisman (Spring 2009). "Rape Rates". Salvo (magazine). Retrieved 21 December 2010.

"Newsradio 1040 WHO". WHO (AM). 20 October 2010. Retrieved 1 January 2010. A linked half-hour MP3 interview of Reisman ("Perhaps the nation's foremost researcher exposing the true Kinsey, and the unfortunate impact it's had on America.") by Steve Deace; discussion of Darwin starts about 12 minutes in. "Kinsey is a continuation of Darwin [...] Kinsey was dramatically impacted by Darwin"

Judith Reisman (22 November 2006). "Darwin's Fairytales Have Led Us to Savage Waters". Human Events. Retrieved 1 January 2010. "Kinsey, the high priest of sex, decided to sexually reform America after reading Darwin in college."

Judith Reisman (12 February 1999). [http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16066 "Sex revolution triggers national impotence"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 21 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

Judith A. Reisman (29 July 1995). "Partner Solicitation Language As A Reflection Of Male Sexual Orientation". Collected Papers from the NARTH Annual Conference, Saturday, 29 July 1995. Retrieved 21 November 2010.

"The Pink Swastika 4th Edition - Final". Retrieved 19 June 2011. Quoting from Chapter 10, "Closing Thoughts."

YouTube video (and transcript) of Thom Hartmann conducting a phone interview with Judith Reisman regarding sex education in Montana.

Audio Interview of Judith Reisman by Phyllis Schlafly for Eagle Forum Live.

Audio Interview of Judith Reisman for Covenant Eyes.

Other WND:

As per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_62#WORLD_NET_DAILY_final_answer_needed, "Consensus appears to be that World Net Daily is not generally acceptable as a source for factual material [...] As to whether or under what criteria/circumstance WND might be considered WP:RS, opinion is divided." -- Limulus (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC) To the extent that they are directly quoting her (especially since she is a columnist for them), I think it should be treated as a Primary Source. -- Limulus (talk) 07:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Brian Fitzpatrick (20 October 2010). [http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=214757 "Expert talks about the calamity of Kinsey"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 23 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

[http://www.wnd.com/index.php/?pageId=43&authorId=97&tId=8 "Judith Reisman WorldNetDaily Commentary Archive"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 17 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

This one should be OK to establish that she is a WND author. -- Limulus (talk) 08:39, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Brian Fitzpatrick (18 October 2010). [http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=214753 "How a Kinsey victim lives with molestation trauma"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 24 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

Art Moore (20 January 2003). [http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=16792 "Hollywood mag spikes `pedophile warning`"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 1 January 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

David M. Bresnahan (5 October 2000). [http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=480 "Rape of a sacred trust"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 24 November 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

Dave Welch (1 January 2011). [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=246053 "From Darwin to Marx to Kinsey to Obama"]. WorldNetDaily. Retrieved 1 January 2010. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help) quotes Reisman as saying that Darwin was a "major influence on Kinsey"

[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=193505 "Author warns against believing 'sexperts'"]. WorldNetDaily. 20 August 2010. Retrieved 2 January 2011. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help) "defenders of Judeo-Christian traditions appear to be priming for some demoralizing culture-war defeats [...] The battles are lost, says Judith Reisman [...] if those fighting them keep failing to address the pink elephant hovering over each case – Alfred Kinsey."

Other pro-Reisman

These are basically WND-class refs; avoid. -- Limulus (talk) 10:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Roach, David (17 January 2003). "Film portraying sex offender set to begin production". Baptist Press. Retrieved 21 November 2010.

"The Real Kinsey: Who He Was, What He Wrought". National Catholic Register. 12–18 December 2004. Retrieved 15 November 2010.

"WCU Launches Another Strike". Pilgrims Covenant Church. 15 March 2000. Retrieved 31 December 2010. "Reisman [...] excoriates State Representative Mark Pocan for defending the Mazo nude beach and goes on to testify that nude beaches are a magnet for child molesters and child pornographers."

"The Lighted Candle Society - June 2004 Newsletter". The Lighted Candle Society. June 2004. Retrieved 28 December 2010.

"National Expert on Kinsey Visits Law School (Exposes Truth Behind Research)". Liberty University. 18 November 2010. Retrieved 1 January 2011. Quoting: "Dr. Reisman, for decades, has been the single most effective force in exposing the fraud and criminal activity committed by notorious 'sexologist' Alfred Kinsey" -- Mathew Staver, Dean of Liberty University School of Law and Founder/Chairman of Liberty Counsel. "Dr. Reisman has been a lifelong champion for women and children. She has done more to expose the crimes and frauds perpetuated by Alfred Kinsey than anyone else." -- Matthew Barber, Associate Dean for the Center for Career and Professional Development at Liberty University School of Law.

"Biography-Reisman, Judith". Liberty University School of Law. Retrieved 18 August 2011.

"Salvo Magazine (Columnists)". Salvo (magazine). Retrieved 20 December 2010.

This one should be OK to establish that she is a Salvo author. -- Limulus (talk) 08:39, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Jan LaRue (2 December 2004). "Senate Subcommittee Hears Experts on Pornography Toxicity". Concerned Women for America. Retrieved 17 November 2010. (note: this is a mirror of the original which is now missing from their site)

Magazines

Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.

See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_74#The_New_York_Times_and_The_New_Yorker_magazine_as_sources_in_a_WP:BLP, e.g. "a publication with an excellent reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, and is clearly BLP-appropriate, subject to conscientious representation of its content" -- Limulus (talk) 07:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Ryan Singel (19 November 2004). "Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack?". Wired (magazine). Retrieved 28 December 2010.

See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_79#Wired.com, e.g. "Wired Magazine, and its website wired.com, generally have a reputation for fact checking and accuracy (and thus meet the burden set forth in WP:RS)" -- Limulus (talk) 07:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

pro-Kinsey

The PBS one quoting the Kinsey biographer should be good. Avoid the kinseyinstitute.org ones if possible (primary source). The SIECUS one is more like a 3rd party source, but it DOES give a good secondary source in the REFS: [5] -- Limulus (talk) 09:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

"Further Response to Allegations, 2003". The Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction, Inc. Retrieved 14 November 2010.

Gary Pool (September/October 1996). "Sex, science, and Kinsey: a conversation with Dr. John Bancroft - head of the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction - Interview". The Humanist. FindArticles. Retrieved 23 November 2010. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

"Allegations About Childhood Data in the 1948 book, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male". The Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction. Retrieved 24 November 2010.

"American Experience - Kinsey - Online Forum - Questions and Answers: Day 2". PBS. 15 February 2005. Retrieved 2 January 2010. Quoting Jones: "For more than a decade rumors and accusations have circulated that Kinsey was a pedophile. I have not seen any credible evidence to support these rumors and accusations, and I do not believe that such evidence exists. Moreover, reliable people who knew Kinsey's sexual history have testified that he was not a pedophile. I believe them."

Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States. "The Far-Right's Fight Against Kinsey". Retrieved 21 November 2010.

News/AP

Associated Press (5 March 1984). "Memo: $798,000 Porn Study Could Be Made for $60,000". The Palm Beach Post. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

Larry Margasak (Associated Press) (3 May 1985). "New study will determine how adult magazines affect children". The Gettysburg Times. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

James J. Kilpatrick (26 September 1986). "Nude Women, Mud Pies, And The Defecit". The Blade. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

Associated Press (8 May 1985). "'Kiddie porn' study called waste of money". Nashua Telegraph. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

Russ Kazal (United Press International) (12 July 1985). "Expert links nude Madonna, more child pornography". The Modesto Bee. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

Associated Press (15 October 1992). "Ex-gay minister backs Oregon Measure 9". Moscow-Pullman Daily News. Retrieved 20 December 2010.

Associated Press (5 October 1990). "Prosecution expert degrades 'art' photos". The Vindicator. Retrieved 15 November 2010.

Mark Pilkington (14 July 2005). "Sex on the brain". The Guardian. London. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

Masters, Kim (1990-10-06). "Art Gallery Not Guilty of Obscenity;Cincinnati Jury Clears Mapplethorpe Exhibitors of All Charges". The Washington Post.

Wilkerson, Isabel (1990-10-05). "Witness in Obscenity Trial Calls Explicit Photographs 'Destructive'". The New York Times.

Steven Litt (05 October 2010). "Dennis Barrie looks back on his Cincinnati obscenity trial 20 years after his acquittal". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved 19 June 2011. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

"Kinsey institute sued by thwarted critic". The Bulletin (Bend). Associated Press. 9 May 1991. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

Sally Jo Sorensen (10 March 2011). "GOP's Gruenhagen calls for destruction of 'filthy' Kinsey research". The Minnesota Independent. Retrieved 19 June 2011. Gruenhagen is quoted, in brief: "We need to destroy [Kinsey’s] research. It is filled with lies and fraud. The person who has done tremendous research on this is Dr. Judith Reisman. All of this can be found on the Internet."

Michelle Mittelstadt (8 December 1995). "Probe into sex study suggested". The Free Lance–Star. Associated Press. Retrieved 18 June 2011.

Adding this one via the SIECUS ref: [6]

Reviews

As WP:BLP reminds us, "When in doubt, make sure you are using high-quality sources." so I'm going to suggest avoiding these if we can help it. -- Limulus (talk) 09:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Jonathan A. Cullum (November 2005). "Scope Issue 3: Film Reviews". Scope. Retrieved 24 November 2010.

David M. Kinchen (8 December 2010). "BOOK REVIEW: 'Sexual Sabotage'". Huntington News Network. Retrieved 1 January 2010.

Other

Larry Keller (19 September 2010). "World Net Daily Speakers Defend Tea Parties". Hatewatch. Southern Poverty Law Center. Retrieved 29 December 2010.

I note the word "blog" in the URL; as per Wikipedia:BLOGS, "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer." so it seems we should not use that. -- Limulus (talk) 07:17, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, while Wikipedia:BLPSPS states: "Some news organizations host online columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control." I think we should err on the side of caution (even though the SPLC is not a "news organization" that "blog" does otherwise seem to fit the criteria) and avoid using this unless we really need to. -- Limulus (talk) 09:27, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

A proposed edit, from the talk page: Reisman campaigned with Laura Schlessinger and Robert H. Knight against the 2002 book Harmful to Minors; Reisman claimed that its author, Judith Levine, was 'another in a long line of "academic pedophiles" who were trying to make pedophilia more acceptable.'

There is a massive discussion on Talk:Salon.com/as_a_source_for_Wikipedia but the impression I get from skimming over it is that it is (at least) AlterNet-quality, so can include. -- Limulus (talk) 13:03, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Modus operandi?

Limulus has done a great job laying out which references we should be relying on and which we should be avoiding. I think the way we should be going about this is - rather than trying to preserve the current article structure which gives undue weight to Reisman's fringe theories due to a flawed reading of WP:SPS - looking at the reliable sources, ie. news, books, magazines, and seeing what we can get out of them about Reisman. So, for example:

• Palm Beach Post, Toledo Blade, Gettysburg Times, Nashua Telegraph: Reisman did a study for the Justice Dept., through American University, on racy magazines, which was generally judged to be pointless.
• WaPo, Vindicator, NYT: Reisman testified as an "expert" for the prosecution in Robert Mapplethorpe's obscenity trial.

etc. etc. Does this sound like a good idea? Shall we continue in this vein? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I certainly would be willing to give it a try! :) I'll start making some summaries of the good refs later on tonight. -- Limulus (talk) 03:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm incredibly impressed - wish I had your dedication!

:D -- Limulus (talk) 07:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Anyway, I found a few more (was looking through GNews to see if there were any that weren't yet cited; there are a few others that may be useful). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

'Good ref' brief summaries

AlterNet

Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.

• Background on Reisman: American Family Foundation, $734K study
• Mapplethorpe obscenity trial
• Reisman uses a fringe publishing house
• Compared "Harmful to Minors" with "Mein Kampf"

-- Limulus (talk) 07:08, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Annalee Newitz (30 November 2004). "Your Brain on Porn". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.

Jacob Sullum (8 December 2004). "From Donuts To Heroin". AlterNet. Retrieved 29 December 2010.

• Above two: Senate hearing w/ Judith Reisman of the California Protective Parents Association talking about the dangers of "erotoxins" -- Limulus (talk) 07:08, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Christina Larson (8 December 2004). "The Joy of Sexology". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2010.

• Kinsey movie: Reisman with Laura Schlessinger tried to take out an ad against it. -- Limulus (talk) 07:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.

• Reisman is obsessed with Kinsey and how 'bad' he was
• quite influential with US religious right-wing (ties to Bush admin)
• daughter molested; all pervs ultimately lead to Kinsey
• Captain Kangaroo
• Case Western Reserve in Cleveland
• $734K study
• homosexual recruitment
• Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman
• erotoxins
• comparisons of people she doesn't like with Nazis

-- Limulus (talk) 07:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Books/Journals

Trento, Susan (1992). St. Martin's Press. pp. 193–200. ISBN 9780312083199. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help) Relevant excerpt: [7]

• major ref about $734K study

-- Limulus (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Carol, Avedon 1994, Nudes, Prudes and Attitudes: Pornography and Censorship, New Clarion Press, Gloucester. p. 116. [8][9]

• Quote (by notable Avedon Carol) about failure of $734K study

-- Limulus (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Bolton, Robert (1989). "The cultural contradictions of conservatism". New Art Examiner. 17. Retrieved 01 January 2011. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

• minor Mapplethorpe ref (could be dispensed with if we don't need that exact quote)

-- Limulus (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Meyer, Richard (2002). Outlaw Representation: Censorship and Homosexuality in Twentieth-Century American Art. Beacon Press. pp. 216–218. ISBN 0807079359.

• major Mapplethorpe ref

-- Limulus (talk) 08:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239–242.

• leading activist on the religious right
• decades-long campaign to discredit AK/sexology/sex ed through personal attacks (ie. "Kinsey was a pedo and so were his pals") - calls him a "certifiable sexual psychopath"
• Stockman proposed investigation
• film Kinsey; open letter to Neeson comparing AK to Mengele
• claimed that AK molested kids for his research; denied by Kinsey Inst.; religious right orgs reprint these claims
• "advisor" (capacity unspecified -R.) to American Legislative Exchange Council; alleges that one AK collaborator was a Nazi officer
• Harmful to Minors; calls Levine "part of a clique of 'academic pedophiles'"; hasn't read the book, but compares it to Mein Kampf (here the book is repeating material from the Boston Globe)

-- Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Wow; you found a really good ref there! -- Limulus (talk) 07:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Biographical entries

"Footnotes--July–August 2008 Issue--Obituaries". ASA Footnotes. American Sociological Association. July–August 2008. Retrieved 28 December 2010.

• $734K study-related: for establishing Figlio's credentials; only useful if he's specifically mentioned.

-- Limulus (talk) 08:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Magazines

Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.

• Judith Reisman is the founder of the modern anti-Kinsey movement.
• background
• influential in social-conservative circles
• molestation claims not backed by Kinsey biographers
• Pink Swastika; gays/Nazis claims
• Congressman Steve Stockman, of Texas
• Hopes for anti-porn class-action lawsuit
• Hopes to discredit entire field of sexology

Major ref -- Limulus (talk) 08:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Ryan Singel (19 November 2004). "Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack?". Wired (magazine). Retrieved 28 December 2010.

• Senate hearing: mention of Reisman and erototoxins

-- Limulus (talk) 08:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

"Controversial Study of Children in Sex Magazines Shelved by U.S.," Chronicle of Higher Education, November 26 1986.

• I can't actually access this, but I found mention of it and it is presumably about the DOJ declining to publish the study. Obviously we can't cite it, but if someone could get a hold of it, then we could. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Given the date (contemporary with the event; see my comments in "Beginning to discuss weight"), I suspect that the AP reports would provide similar info. -- Limulus (talk) 07:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

pro-Kinsey

"American Experience - Kinsey - Online Forum - Questions and Answers: Day 2". PBS. 15 February 2005. Retrieved 2 January 2010. Quoting Jones: "For more than a decade rumors and accusations have circulated that Kinsey was a pedophile. I have not seen any credible evidence to support these rumors and accusations, and I do not believe that such evidence exists. Moreover, reliable people who knew Kinsey's sexual history have testified that he was not a pedophile. I believe them."

• Kinsey biographer denies claims about Kinsey being a pedo

-- Limulus (talk) 08:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Other

Amy Benfer (19 April 2002). "What's so bad about good sex?". Salon.com. Retrieved 19 August 2011.

• Reisman against book Harmful to Minors

-- Limulus (talk) 08:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

News/AP

Associated Press (5 March 1984). "Memo: $798,000 Porn Study Could Be Made for $60,000". The Palm Beach Post. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

• $734 study (originally it was going to be more $$$)

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Larry Margasak (Associated Press) (3 May 1985). "New study will determine how adult magazines affect children". The Gettysburg Times. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

• $734K study

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

James J. Kilpatrick (26 September 1986). "Nude Women, Mud Pies, And The Defecit". The Blade. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

• $734K study

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Associated Press (8 May 1985). "'Kiddie porn' study called waste of money". Nashua Telegraph. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

• $734K study

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Russ Kazal (United Press International) (12 July 1985). "Expert links nude Madonna, more child pornography". The Modesto Bee. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

• Madonna NAKED!

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Associated Press (15 October 1992). "Ex-gay minister backs Oregon Measure 9". Moscow-Pullman Daily News. Retrieved 20 December 2010.

• gay recruitment

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Associated Press (5 October 1990). "Prosecution expert degrades 'art' photos". The Vindicator. Retrieved 15 November 2010.

• Mapplethorpe trial

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Mark Pilkington (14 July 2005). "Sex on the brain". The Guardian. London. Retrieved 16 November 2010.

• Erototoxins

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Masters, Kim (1990-10-06). "Art Gallery Not Guilty of Obscenity;Cincinnati Jury Clears Mapplethorpe Exhibitors of All Charges". The Washington Post.

• Mapplethorpe trial result: NOT GUILTY

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Wilkerson, Isabel (1990-10-05). "Witness in Obscenity Trial Calls Explicit Photographs 'Destructive'". The New York Times.

• Mapplethorpe trial

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Steven Litt (05 October 2010). "Dennis Barrie looks back on his Cincinnati obscenity trial 20 years after his acquittal". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved 19 June 2011. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

• Mapplethorpe trial (background info)

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

"Kinsey institute sued by thwarted critic". The Bulletin (Bend). Associated Press. 9 May 1991. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

• Reisman sues Kinsey Inst.

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Sally Jo Sorensen (10 March 2011). "GOP's Gruenhagen calls for destruction of 'filthy' Kinsey research". The Minnesota Independent. Retrieved 19 June 2011. Gruenhagen is quoted, in brief: "We need to destroy [Kinsey’s] research. It is filled with lies and fraud. The person who has done tremendous research on this is Dr. Judith Reisman. All of this can be found on the Internet."

• Another politician under the influence of Reisman

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Michelle Mittelstadt (8 December 1995). "Probe into sex study suggested". The Free Lance–Star. Associated Press. Retrieved 18 June 2011.

• Stockman

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Alan Cooperman (22 November 2004). "Conservative Christians Protest Movie on Kinsey". The Washington Post. Retrieved 22 August 2011.

• Reisman wants to tell us all about Kinsey and how he destroyed the USA
• Kinsey movie
• Kinsey Biographer James H. Jones

-- Limulus (talk) 09:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

"Decision to Spike Adult Magazine Study Rapped". Ocala Star-Banner. Associated Press. November 20, 1986.

• Study was not published, as it was judged too low-quality to be worth it; two members of peer review group criticized Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Index of Results

-- Limulus (talk) 09:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

$734K study:

• Trento, Susan (1992). St. Martin's Press. pp. 193–200. ISBN 9780312083199. Relevant excerpt: [7]
• Carol, Avedon 1994, Nudes, Prudes and Attitudes: Pornography and Censorship, New Clarion Press, Gloucester. p. 116. [8][9]
• "Footnotes--July–August 2008 Issue--Obituaries". ASA Footnotes. American Sociological Association. July–August 2008. Retrieved 28 December 2010.
• Associated Press (5 March 1984). "Memo: $798,000 Porn Study Could Be Made for $60,000". The Palm Beach Post. Retrieved 16 November 2010.
• Larry Margasak (Associated Press) (3 May 1985). "New study will determine how adult magazines affect children". The Gettysburg Times. Retrieved 16 November 2010.
• James J. Kilpatrick (26 September 1986). "Nude Women, Mud Pies, And The Defecit". The Blade. Retrieved 16 November 2010.
• Associated Press (8 May 1985). "'Kiddie porn' study called waste of money". Nashua Telegraph. Retrieved 16 November 2010.
• Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• "Decision to Spike Adult Magazine Study Rapped". Ocala Star-Banner. Associated Press. November 20, 1986.
• "Controversial Study of Children in Sex Magazines Shelved by U.S.," Chronicle of Higher Education, November 26 1986.

Mapplethorpe:

• Bolton, Robert (1989). "The cultural contradictions of conservatism". New Art Examiner 17. Retrieved 01 January 2011.
• Meyer, Richard (2002). Outlaw Representation: Censorship and Homosexuality in Twentieth-Century American Art. Beacon Press. pp. 216–218. ISBN 0807079359.
• Associated Press (5 October 1990). "Prosecution expert degrades 'art' photos". The Vindicator. Retrieved 15 November 2010.
• Masters, Kim (1990-10-06). "Art Gallery Not Guilty of Obscenity;Cincinnati Jury Clears Mapplethorpe Exhibitors of All Charges". The Washington Post.
• Wilkerson, Isabel (1990-10-05). "Witness in Obscenity Trial Calls Explicit Photographs 'Destructive'". The New York Times.
• Steven Litt (05 October 2010). "Dennis Barrie looks back on his Cincinnati obscenity trial 20 years after his acquittal". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved 19 June 2011.
• Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.

Erototoxins:

• Annalee Newitz (30 November 2004). "Your Brain on Porn". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
• Jacob Sullum (8 December 2004). "From Donuts To Heroin". AlterNet. Retrieved 29 December 2010.
• Ryan Singel (19 November 2004). "Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack?". Wired (magazine). Retrieved 28 December 2010.
• Mark Pilkington (14 July 2005). "Sex on the brain". The Guardian (London). Retrieved 16 November 2010.
• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.

Reisman wants you to know that Kinsey is a bad bad man:

• Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Alan Cooperman (22 November 2004). "Conservative Christians Protest Movie on Kinsey". The Washington Post. Retrieved 22 August 2011.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Biographer Jones/Kinsey not a pedo:

• "American Experience - Kinsey - Online Forum - Questions and Answers: Day 2". PBS. 15 February 2005. Retrieved 2 January 2010.
• Alan Cooperman (22 November 2004). "Conservative Christians Protest Movie on Kinsey". The Washington Post. Retrieved 22 August 2011.
• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Stockman:

• Michelle Mittelstadt (8 December 1995). "Probe into sex study suggested". The Free Lance–Star. Associated Press. Retrieved 18 June 2011.
• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Nazi comparisons:

• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Reisman background:

• Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.

Kinsey movie:

• Christina Larson (8 December 2004). "The Joy of Sexology". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2010.
• Alan Cooperman (22 November 2004). "Conservative Christians Protest Movie on Kinsey". The Washington Post. Retrieved 22 August 2011.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Book "Harmful to Minors":

• Amy Benfer (19 April 2002). "What's so bad about good sex?". Salon.com. Retrieved 19 August 2011.
• Debbie Nathan (18 April 2002). "The Taboos of Touch". AlterNet. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Influence on right-wing in US:

• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Gay recruitment:

• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Associated Press (15 October 1992). "Ex-gay minister backs Oregon Measure 9". Moscow-Pullman Daily News. Retrieved 20 December 2010.

Madonna naked:

• Russ Kazal (United Press International) (12 July 1985). "Expert links nude Madonna, more child pornography". The Modesto Bee. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

Reisman sues Kinsey Inst.:

• "Kinsey institute sued by thwarted critic". The Bulletin (Bend). Associated Press. 9 May 1991. Retrieved 22 June 2011.

Gruenhagen:

• Sally Jo Sorensen (10 March 2011). "GOP’s Gruenhagen calls for destruction of ‘filthy’ Kinsey research". The Minnesota Independent. Retrieved 19 June 2011.

Her anti-Kinsey goals:

• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

Beginning to discuss weight

From the refs listed above, it initially looks like the parts that merit the most weight are the magazine study and the Mapplethorpe trial. However, I think that part of the reason for the predominance of refs there is that these were ongoing events that got news coverage as they took place. We should consider this when we are evaluating weight, and perhaps consider giving more weight to books and articles that profile Reisman, such as the New Yorker article and the Irvine book. Also, Alternet may or may not be reliable for facts, but they are not a good source for determining weight because they are an advocacy website with goals antagonistic to Reisman's. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree with your observation about the news refs and "ongoing events"; e.g. note:

• $734K study; AP/News sources are 1984-6
• Madonna naked (Playboy); UPI source is 1985
• Mapplethorpe; AP/News sources are 1990
• Reisman sues Kinsey Inst.; AP source is 1991
• Oregon Measure 9 (Gay recruitment); AP source is 1992
• Stockman; AP source 1995
• Book "Harmful to Minors"; mostly 2002
• Erototoxins; 2004-5
• Kinsey movie; 2004-5

That is to say, they are indeed contemporary. I am not the best person to ask about relative weight for an article, but while naked pics of Madonna being published was big news in 1985, it probably would barely register as a news item now. Oregon Ballot Measure 9 (1992) "drew widespread national attention" in 1992, but now it's a footnote in US history.

Does this imply that the News/AP stories should be used mainly to flesh-out areas supported by major refs? -- Limulus (talk) 07:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I think it is safe to say that the most comprehensive refs are, in chronological order:

• Daniel Radosh (6 December 2004). "The Culture Wars: Why Know?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 14 November 2010.
• Max Blumenthal (15 December 2004). "Her Kinsey Obsession". AlterNet. Retrieved 17 November 2010.
• Irvine, Janice M. (2005). Disorders of desire: sexuality and gender in modern American sexology. Temple University Press. pp. 239-242.

I think Max Blumenthal's BLP shows that he is a credible journalist and so long as we label any of his personal opinions as such, we should certainly use it as a major basis for the article. I also note BTW that those three were published all around the same time, when Reisman was talking about Erototoxins and the Kinsey movie, so we should consider that when judging weight.-- Limulus (talk) 07:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I think for tonight's project, I should look more closely the text of those three and see where they overlap... -- Limulus (talk) 07:44, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

That will have to wait for tomorrow; the Irvine book did not have nice text to copy-and-paste and so I had to resort to imperfect OCR and manual adjustment; the results will live here for the next month in case anyone wants a (fair-use :) copy for this project. -- Limulus (talk) 11:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Longer summaries of three refs

-- Limulus (talk) 10:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh and there was one thing that I left out, and that was Blumenthal's mention of JR as a "House Hebrew" to the Christian right; that she is useful to deflect charges of antisemitism. As that is the only ref I've ever seen that specifically mentioned though I didn't feel comfortable adding it. -- Limulus (talk) 04:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

• Reisman defined by her anti-Kinsey fixation

Irvine: has campaigned for decades to discredit Kinsey, and by extension, modern sexology and sex education. Radosh: Judith Reisman is the founder of the modern anti-Kinsey movement. Radosh: To a reader of Reisman’s scholarly papers, it sometimes appears that there is little for which she does not hold Kinsey responsible. Blumenthal: post-War era sex researcher Dr. Alfred Kinsey, but for Judith Reisman, he has been a singular obsession for decades. Reisman has cast herself as the anti-Kinsey, a self-styled moral monger in an existential – and admittedly personal – battle with the forces of cultural decay and sexual permissiveness. Blumenthal: In her writings and lectures, Reisman conjures a dark world in which Playboy magazine insidiously pushes kiddie-porn, where homosexuals crusade for the hearts and behinds of America's youth and "erotoxins" as powerful as crack cocaine fill the somatasensory cortexes of porn watchers. From Reisman's writings and lectures, one could get the impression that this world is entirely the creation of Kinsey, the Master of Perverts. Blumenthal: Thanks to her friend Reisman, she says, she has come to understand that "Kinsey is very responsible for the destruction of my parents' generation."

• Background/Education

Radosh: former songwriter for Captain Kangaroo Radosh: Ph.D. in communications Blumenthal: Though the "Dr." that precedes her name on her book and her web site is practically cosmetic, earned with a degree in communications, Blumenthal quotes heavily from her 'self-published 1998 essay, "A Personal Odyssey to the Truth."'; daughter molested in 1966, died 15 yrs later... seems to blame Kinsey; worked for Captain Kangaroo; CWRU; 1977 conference Radosh: It was at an academic conference in Wales in the late nineteen-seventies that Reisman discovered Kinsey.

• Personal attacks/Nazi comparisons/Gay recruitment fearmongering

Irvine: Reisman has relied heavily on personal attack, charging that Kinsey and his collaborators were closet homosexuals and pedophiles whose research was corrupted by their own sexual perversions." Calling Kinsey a "certifiable sexual psychopath," Reisman has published extensively on the topic and regularly criticizes sexologists. During the bitter nationwide battles over sex education in the 1990s, Reisman linked sex education to what she described as a Kinseyan philosophy of child abuse and perversion. [...] stigmatizing strategies directed against sexologists. For one, opponents of sex research have attacked it by using inflammatory language, frightening symbols, and analogies designed to provoke disgust and anger. [...] Judith Reisman, an advisor to ALEC, has alleged on many occasions that "one Kinsey pedophile collaborator was a former WW II Nazi officer." In a 2002 attack on journalist Judith Levine after the publication of her book on childhood sexuality, Reisman told the Boston Globe that Levine was "part of a clique of 'academic pedophiles'" and upon acknowledging that she had not read Levine's book said, "I didn't read Mein Kampf for many years, but I knew the position of the author." Although it does not always succeed, the rhetoric of stigmatization is designed to undermine sexology's legitimacy by producing strong feelings of fear and hostility among its potential audience. Radosh: “One doesn’t measure American sexual habits,” she said. “That’s not a science.” Blumenthal: In fact, equating homosexuals, abortion doctors and secular humanists with the Nazis who massacred so much of her family in Europe is a staple of Reisman's rhetoric. Blumenthal: her book, "Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences," is replete with comparisons of Kinsey to Nazi scientists, including insinuations that his involvement in the Boy Scouts as a teenager was on par with membership in the Hitler Youth. Radosh: In one article, Reisman describes Kinsey as “a scientific and moral fraud, a certifiable sexual psychopath as well as a sadomasochistic pornography addict and a sexually harassing bully.” Radosh: Reisman also believes that Kinsey died not from heart failure but from what she calls “brutal, repetitive self-abuse.” Radosh: In her research on gays, for instance, she has written that the “recruitment techniques” of homosexuals rival those of the Marine Corps. The Kinsey paradigm, she holds, created the moral framework that makes such recruitment possible. Reisman also endorses a book called “The Pink Swastika,” which challenges the “myths” that gays were victimized in Nazi Germany. The Nazi Party and the Holocaust itself, she writes, were largely the creation of “the German homosexual movement.” Thanks to Alfred Kinsey, she warns, the American homosexual movement is poised to repeat those crimes. “Idealistic ‘gay youth’ groups are being formed and staffed in classrooms nationwide by recruiters too similar to those who formed the original ‘Hitler youth.’ ” Blumenthal: At a May, 1994 conference of Christian right leadership in Colorado Springs described by the Washington Times as "top secret," Reisman introduced her theory of a proselytizing homosexual movement. "I would suggest to you," she told the conference, "that while the homosexual population may right now be one to two percent, hold your breath, people, because the recruitment is loud; it is clear; it is everywhere. You'll be seeing, I would say, 20 percent or more, probably 30 percent, or even more than that, of the young population will be moving into homosexual activity." The notion of a surreptitious homosexual recruitment campaign is now casually advanced by conservative Christian leaders as they rally for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

• Reisman: Kinsey a Pedo

Irvine: Reisman's most provocative allegation is that Kinsey's research was based on cruel and illegal sexual experimentation on hundreds of children. At the fifth World Congress of Sexology in 1981, Reisman alleged that Table 34 in Kinsey's Sexual Behavior in the Human Male contained data on the violent molestation of hundreds of children. Depending on her forum, Reisman charged that Kinsey reported on, or that he actually orchestrated, child abuse for research purposes. She claimed that Kinsey employed a pedophile in order to obtain data on childhood sexuality, and implied that Kinsey arranged for the torture of children. For example, she asked, without answering, "[D]id the Kinsey team participate in the pedophile abuse of 317 infants and children?" and titled a section of one article, "Molesting Children in the Name of Science." Radosh: “Dr. Kinsey’s most egregious fraud is that he wasn’t a scientist,” Reisman said the other day. “He was an ideologue who was most importantly a sex offender at best, and, beyond being a sex offender, he was certainly a child sexual abuser and/or solicitor and guide in the perpetration of that abuse.” At the root of this accusation is an interview that Kinsey conducted with a sexual predator who kept detailed records of his activities with hundreds of women, men, and children. But it is not simply Kinsey’s neutrality toward such people that upsets Reisman. She claims that Kinsey actively solicited pedophiles to molest children and report back to him. In fact, she said, “there is absolutely no reason to believe that Kinsey himself was not involved in the sexual abuse of these children.” Blumenthal: Through Abstinence Clearinghouse, Unruh sells Reisman's book, "Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences," which accuses Kinsey of everything from pedophilia to Nazism, and publishes a pamphlet, "Casualties of Kinsey," supporting the theory that Kinsey molested child research volunteers.

• Others: Kinsey not a Pedo

Irvine: John Bancroft, then-director of the Kinsey Institute, issued a denial saying, "Kinsey was not a pedophile in any shape or form. He did not carry out experiments on children; he did not hire, collaborate, or persuade people to carry out experiments on children." Radosh: None of Kinsey’s four biographers have turned up any evidence that he was. Blumenthal: She simply posits Kinsey's alleged criminality as a "possibility," one which none of Kinsey's four biographers have found any evidence to entertain.

• $734K study

Radosh: She has served as a consultant to the Departments of Education and Health and Human Services and was given seven hundred and thirty-four thousand dollars by Ronald Reagan’s Justice Department to study pornography. Blumenthal: The onset of the Reagan Revolution presented Reisman with a wealth of opportunities. In 1984, Justice Department official Alfred Regnery, now a prominent conservative publisher, granted Reisman $734,371 to analyze the content of Playboy magazines between 1954 and 1984. When she turned in her findings at American University, where she was based, the university refused to publish them. Even Regnery confessed the grant was a mistake. "This is not science, it's vigilantism: paranoid, pseudoscientific hyperbole with a thinly veiled, hidden agenda. This kind of thing doesn't help children at all," Dr. Loretta Haroian, a leading expert on childhood sexuality, said of Reisman's report.

• Stockman/HR 2749

Irvine: Her charges served as the basis for 1995 House Resolution 2749 introduced by one-term conservative Representative Steve Stockman (R-Tex.) to investigate whether Kinsey's research involved any fraud or criminal wrongdoing. The bill died in committee. Radosh: She is hoping that someone will revive H.R. 2749, a bill introduced, at Reisman’s urging, in 1995 to determine if “The Kinsey Reports” “are the result of any fraud or criminal wrongdoing.” It has been languishing since its sponsor, Congressman Steve Stockman, of Texas, lost his bid for reëlection in 1996. Blumenthal: Nevertheless, Reisman's work caught the attention of Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman, a former drifter with well-established ties to right-wing, anti-government militias. In 1995, Stockman introduced HR 2749, "The Child Protection and Ethics in Education Act," a bill Reisman helped author which proposed "to determine if Alfred Kinsey's [books] 'Sexual Behavior in the Human Male' and/or 'Sexual Behavior in the Human Female' are the result of any fraud or criminal wrongdoing." Even in the House's predominately conservative atmosphere, the bill went nowhere. A year later, Stockman lost his re-election campaign and Reisman once again lost her terra firma on Capitol Hill.

• Erototoxins/Brownback

Blumenthal: This November, Reisman spent a week on the Hill at the invitation of Sen. Brownback, the Catholic Kansas Republican, to testify before the Senate Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space on "The Science Behind Pornography Addiction." In her testimony, Reisman presented her discredited Playboy/kiddie-porn report to reinforce her contention that, "Pornography triggers myriad kinds of internal, natural drugs that mimic the 'high' from a street drug. Addiction to pornography is addiction to what I dub 'erotoxins' – mind-altering drugs produced by the viewer's own brain." She added, "A basic science research team employing a cautiously protective methodology should study 'erotoxins' and the brain/body." Her call for a research team was both a tacit admission that her presentation was bereft of any scientific evidence, and yet another plea for federal grant money for her studies. Radosh: Last week, Reisman testified at a congressional hearing about the dangers of pornography addiction, saying that police should be required to collect evidence of pornography consumption at any crime scene.

• Group/Works

Irvine: founder of the Institute for Media Education Radosh: president of the Institute for Media Education Radosh: the lead author of “Kinsey, Sex and Fraud” and “Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences.”

The "Institute for Media Education" appears to be a fancy-sounding name for "Judith Reisman," so I'm not sure if there's any point in us mentioning it. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Agree; just included to be thorough :) Only possible usage I can think of is if a ref mentioned that and not her name. But Google News seems to always associate the two ;) -- Limulus (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

• Kinsey Film

Irvine: Reisman also attempted to halt the production of the film Kinsey, sending an open letter to actor Liam Neeson warning him that playing Kinsey would place him in "a hideously inaccurate role, much like playing the monster Mengele as a mere controversial figure." Radosh: The new film, she said, is “deceptive and malevolently misleading, to say the least.”

• Influential with US religious right

Irvine: prominent religious right activist Radosh: Though largely unknown outside social-conservative circles, Reisman has been influential within them. Blumenthal: As Reisman gathers influence in Republican-dominated Washington, her work is bearing an increasingly apparent mark on the Christian right's political agenda and by extension, on the White House's social policy. Irvine: prominent Christian right organizations, such as the American Family Association, Concerned Women for America, and the Family Research Council, have fostered [Reisman's] allegations in their publications and websites, helping to shape the culture wars over sexuality eduction in the United States. Blumenthal: Though Reisman has cultivated a wealth of connections within government, her deepest wellspring of influence remains the Christian right, which is certain to enjoy unprecendented access to the White House in a second Bush term. Reisman is a longtime consultant to Washington-based lobbying powerhouses like Concerned Women for America and the American Family Association. And she has enlisted her friend Eunice Ray, founder of Restoring Social Virtue and Purity to America (RSVP America) to campaign full time for the reintroduction of HR 2749. Ray is the founder and director of Camp American, a Christian summer camp where kids can play volleyball, go canoeing and participate in political workshops led by the likes of Gary DeMar, an avowed theocrat who advocates the death penalty for gays, abortion doctors and adulterers, and Larry Pratt, the Gun Owners of America president who has argued that militias should assume law enforcement responsibilities. According to Abstinence Clearinghouse president Unruh, her longtime friend Ray first introduced her to Reisman.

• Influence with Abstinance-only education promoters

Blumenthal: she is a favorite speaker at conferences of the Abstinence Clearinghouse, a federally funded non-profit which provides technical assistance to controversial abstinence-only programs in public schools. Blumenthal: Last June, Reisman was a guest at the Abstinence Clearinghouse's annual leadership conference in Nashville, Tenn. There, she rubbed shoulders with White House public liaison Tim Goeglein before taking the stage alongside Eunice Ray to declare, "pornography is training all your sex educators." According to Unruh, Reisman received several standing ovations and "everyone just loved her." [...] Reisman was honored with an "Abstie Lifetime Achievement Award." Blumenthal: "I think Judith Reisman is starting to have an impact with people in the abstinence community because I've pushed to have her at our conferences, and they just love her," said Unruh. Blumenthal: "As president and founder of the Abstinence Clearinghouse, Judith Reisman has affected my life personally through the enormous amount of scientific research she's done – and without Judith's impact on my life, I don't believe the abstinence community would have been impacted," Abstinence Clearinghouse founder, Leslee Unruh, told me. The Abstinence Clearinghouse, advised by members of conservative Christian groups like Focus on the Family, Concerned Women for America and Coral Ridge Ministries, is funded in part by the Department of Health and Human Services. As the spearhead of the abstinence-only movement, its primary task is to design and disseminate curricula to public schools which administer abstinence-only courses. Unruh is a retired businesswoman and anti-abortion activist who says she "has a common sense background" in the sexual health field. Radosh: More recently, she has been active in the rise of abstinence-only education; in June, her colleagues gave her an Abstie Award for lifetime achievement.

• Influence in Bush admin.

Blumenthal: Yet the Bush administration's entry into the White House in 2000 was a rising tide that promised to lift the boats of Reisman and her fellow culture warriors. Reisman's anti-porn crusade gained steam with the February, 2003 appointment of her longtime friend Bruce Taylor to senior counsel to the assistant attorney general. Taylor has prosecuted over 700 obscenity cases in his career, including the famed 1981 Ohio vs. Larry Flynt trial. With a $5 million budget earmarked for 2005, Taylor is in charge of a beefed-up FBI task force dedicated to cracking down on porn. And like Unruh, his work is inspired by Reisman. "We should probably call her Detective Reisman for finding the hidden clue to Kinsey's crimes against children and families," Taylor said in a quote Reisman published on her personal web site. "'Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences' is a blueprint for justice for victims of sexual exploitation and abuse."

• Wants congressional investigation/lawsuits/more

Radosh: She spent a week in Washington, D.C., recently, talking to people on Capitol Hill about opening a congressional investigation into Kinsey’s work. Radosh: “I certainly would like to see a congressional investigation. Let Congress establish the truth of this matter. Or let it go to a courtroom.” Blumenthal: Reisman was also seeking to influence people on Capitol Hill in her push for an investigation into whether Kinsey had sexually abused children during his research. Blumenthal: lobbied for the reintroduction of a bill that would mandate an investigation into her claim that Kinsey sexually abused children during his research. Radosh: She hopes that the film (along with two forthcoming television documentaries and a recent novel by T. C. Boyle) will foster a backlash, or at least persuade some of Kinsey’s alleged eight hundred child victims to finally come forward. She envisions a class-action lawsuit modelled after the Big Tobacco trials. She said, “Suddenly, people ask, ‘So much cost in celluloid, books, and press for some obscure sexual deviant in Indiana—who is profiting?’ Follow the money.” Radosh: Ultimately, Reisman and her colleagues hope to discredit not only Kinsey but the entire field of sexology which he created, and what she calls “the sexindustrial complex” that has grown out of it.

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I'm going to attempt a stub BLP based on the above 3 ref summaries. I'm going to omit refs for a given statement that only make a passing mention. Comments/Corrections/Rewrites welcome :) -- Limulus (talk) 09:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Judith Reisman (born 1935) is an activist for social conservatism in the United States who is notable for her condemnation of the work and legacy of Alfred Kinsey and involvement in the anti-pornography movement in the United States.

Journalist Max Blumenthal recounts how Reisman came to view pornography as insidious and Kinsey as ultimately responsible for widespread cultural decay in the years following the 1966 discovery that her ten-year-old daughter had been molested by a thirteen-year-old "adored and trusted family friend." In 1981 she made her views against Kinsey public at the fifth World Congress of Sexology.

Reisman's most serious claim about Kinsey is that he was a pedophile who orchestrated child abuse for research purposes, a charge which is not supported by any of Kinsey's four biographers and which was flatly denied by John Bancroft, former director of the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction: "Kinsey was not a pedophile in any shape or form. He did not carry out experiments on children; he did not hire, collaborate, or persuade people to carry out experiments on children." Reisman's accusations prompted congressman Steve Stockman to sponsor an unsuccessful resolution in 1995 calling for an investigation of "fraud or criminal wrongdoing" in the Kinsey Reports. Reisman still hopes that an investigation will be forthcoming and that ultimately the entire field of sexology as it currently stands will be discredited.

Reisman frequently employs ad hominem arguments against those holding opposing views. ['proposed edit' about Judith Levine and her book can go here -- Limulus (talk) 11:19, 27 August 2011 (UTC)] Comparisons with Nazis are "a staple of Reisman's rhetoric". Reisman objected to the 2004 film Kinsey as "deceptive and malevolently misleading" [also AlterNet Larson and washingtonpost.com refs-- Limulus (talk) 11:19, 27 August 2011 (UTC)] and had reproached actor Liam Neeson in an open letter, stating that playing the eponymous character was "a hideously inaccurate role, much like playing the monster Mengele as a mere controversial figure." Journalist Daniel Radosh writes:

In her research on gays, for instance, she has written that the "recruitment techniques" of homosexuals rival those of the Marine Corps. The Kinsey paradigm, she holds, created the moral framework that makes such recruitment possible. Reisman also endorses a book called "The Pink Swastika," which challenges the "myths" that gays were victimized in Nazi Germany. The Nazi Party and the Holocaust itself, she writes, were largely the creation of "the German homosexual movement." Thanks to Alfred Kinsey, she warns, the American homosexual movement is poised to repeat those crimes. "Idealistic 'gay youth' groups are being formed and staffed in classrooms nationwide by recruiters too similar to those who formed the original 'Hitler youth.'"

During the early 1980's, Reisman received a grant from the United States Department of Justice for $734 thousand to study Playboy; her findings were significantly criticised.

[The best ref of the 3 for this is Blumenthal, but it supplies little info. I wonder if a version of the current text of the article regarding this should be split off into its own article; also the same about the Mapplethorpe obscenity trial. -- Limulus (talk) 09:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)]

Reisman, testifying before Congress at the invitation of Senator Sam Brownback, stated that when pornography is viewed, an addictive mixture of chemicals which she has dubbed "erototoxins," floods the brain.

Reisman has spoken in favor of abstinence-only sex education in the United States.

[For weight, see also still? -- Limulus (talk) 10:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)]