Talk:Julian

Requested move 18 January 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: MOVED as initially proposed. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:57, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

---

• Julian (disambiguation) → Julian
• Julian → Julian (name)

Currently, the article at the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Julian is the article about the given name Julian. However, I do not think it meets either of the PRIMARYTOPIC criteria. In regards to usage, Julian (emperor) alone typically gets over three times as many page views. The Roman emperor also has rather substantial long-term significance on his own, enough so that I don't think the given name has enough to be considered the primary topic on that ground. Julian also tends to be somewhat of a target for mislinks, usually for someone meaning the emperor ([1] [2]) or the Julian calendar ([3][4]), and mislinks to a disambiguation page are considerably easier to catch and fix. Egsan Bacon (talk) 06:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

In this case, I think practical considerations outweigh a strict application of policy. I really don't fancy having a disambiguation page as the primary topic, and having the name itself primary seems like a logical and reasonable compromise. Maybe the emperor should be primary, but it took years to get "Julian (emperor)" to its present title, with endless debates about what the proper title should be. I think this would just start all over again should the move in question be approved. So leaning against this proposed move right now. P Aculeius (talk) 13:54, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

"having a disambiguation page as the primary topic" is not a thing. Dicklyon (talk) 03:42, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

• Support – no primarytopic here. Dicklyon (talk) 03:42, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
• Move Julian (emperor) to base title as you said, it has substantial long-term significance, and it has over three times as many page views as the given name. feminist (talk) 07:36, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
• Support dab page being moved to the base term. This is similar to Justin, which also has the name, a Roman emperor and multiple other topics. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
• Support – no primary topic In ictu oculi (talk) 15:11, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

• Support. Quickly. A five-sentence "article" about a name is not the primary topic. —  AjaxSmack  01:55, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
• Support – The given name definitely doesn't constitute a primary topic over both the emperor and the calendar. 142.161.81.20 (talk) 05:30, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
• Support. No primary topic. kennethaw88 • talk 06:23, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Julian (emperor) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 14:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Julian (emperor) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 15:02, 19 March 2022 (UTC)