Talk:Juliane Koepcke

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I have expanded this article with the text from the article LANSA Flight 508. I will change the more detailed section about Koepcke from that article into a summary like what was here before. Er 23:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Inconsistency: Is the spelling Koepcke or Köpcke?

They're both correct. ö can be written as oe.

Spelling again: oe and ö is not considered the same in German when it comes to names (most famous: Goethe). The correct spelling seems to be Koepcke. 212.14.85.32 (talk) 14:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

How many passengers??

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The linked cnn article states, "Ninety-one other people aboard Flight 508 died." So, she would have made 92, not 93 like in the opening paragraph, no?

I'll wait a couple of days for a response to this error before I change it. - KingdomCarts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.1.233.250 (talk) 00:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Crash in the Jungle

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Some years ago I read a book or long short story titled Crash in the Jungle which I think was written by Juliane Kopcke. I notice it's not mentioned in the article. Does anybody else remember or have information about this and can we add it to the article? Thanks Bootlegbobby (talk) 15:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Crash in the Jungle (40p.) was written by Jim Alderson and first published in 1979 as part of the YA "Spiral Series". It was reprinted in 2001 by Nelson Thornes Ltd., UK.SteveStrummer (talk) 18:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Köpcke vs. Koepcke

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Her name is written with 'oe': [1], [2], [3], [http://www.amazon.com/When-Fell-Juliane-Diller-Koepcke/dp/0983754705/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314372569&sr=1-2], [http://www.amazon.com/Als-Himmel-fiel-German-ebook/dp/B004WSQA2I/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314372630&sr=1-1], [4].--Albrecht1 (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2011

Since you've posted nothing has happened, so I'll go ahead and change it. --Danny (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

BBC article

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This from the BBC website gives a very vivid picture of what happened. It contains far more details than those in this article. For instance regarding the crash. And more tragically, that her mother did not die immediately in the crash. She fell to earth and was badly injured nut unable to move, died several days later. Koepcke said "I dread to think what her last days were like." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.57.205 (talk) 11:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

"only" part is probably a bit wrong

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"While she didn’t realize all her injuries at the time, she had survived the fall with a broken collar bone; a torn ACL; one of her eyes swollen shut; her capillaries in her eyes had popped (due to rapid decompression from the plane); a strained vertebrae in her neck; a partially fractured shin; and several deep cuts on her arms and legs." so her injuries weren't the "only" thing listed, a torn ACL and partially fractured shin would make walking hard.

"During her trek, several of her wounds became infected and a large cut on her right arm was infested with maggots." So before whatever insect bites got infected her actual wounds already were.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/a-17-year-old-girl-survived-a-2-mile-fall-without-a-parachute-then-trekked-alone-10-days-through-the-peruvian-rainforest/

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Ref 5, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=041JAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FgwNAAAAIBAJ&pg=3224,1525047 , is a dead link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.159.49.116 (talk) 16:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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merge?

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Seems pretty obvious this article should be merged with LANSA Flight 508. There's already a huge overlap, and an integrated story is the best presentation. Nothing is gained by a separation. EEng 23:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Well, as Ms Diller now is pretty comfortable with the recollection of her story, I suggest to add more information on her later studies and work, thus making this a real biography. Then the idea of merging the articles would become absurd. The German language article contains her some more details on later life and projects such as her privately owned and operated conservation and research station Panguana in Peru. --h-stt !? 18:13, 25 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Would she be notable if it weren't for this incident? EEng 21:05, 25 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Probably yes. But it's enough that she played a substantial role in this one event, a role that's been very well documented in books, film, and other media. Her story takes up way too much of the plane crash article, so I think it's best told here. SteveStrummer (talk) 03:37, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Well, I don't think she's notable other than for this event, but let's say she is. This is a classic case of WP:NOPAGE i.e. two topics, even if they qualify as notable, are best presented via an integrated presentation on a single page. As it stands the text on JK in the LANSA Flight 508 article is bigger than this article dedicated to JK. It makes no sense. EEng 00:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Hello? EEng 23:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
EENG, This article should also have links to Wikipedia articles about the several movies made about this event, and the wildlife refuge/research station created by her parents in Panguana (you know, you failed to acknowledge this place the last time someone mentioned it here, about 10 lines up. there's even a wikipedia entry for it). The article on the Lansa flight is, of course, overwhelmed with information from and about her, since *she was *the survivor. Even Lansa itself is gone. Most importantly, the fact that there is a Wiki page about sole survivors of airplane crashes kind of means that these survivors are worthy of note for that reason alone, and thusly, so is she. 173.49.233.207 (talk) 19:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)-maxnort, not logging in right now, my head hurts, and you can't make meReply

Update needed

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/18/science/koepcke-diller-panguana-amazon-crash.html Lisapaloma (talk) 14:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Same article without paywall: https://archive.is/eP3rU 84.254.102.36 (talk) 18:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Contradiction

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The article says she graduated on the 23rd of December 1971 then says she was on a flight on Christmas eve "about to graduate" high school - which is it? 82.40.68.196 (talk) 13:33, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply