Talk:Jumpin' Jack Flash/Archive 1

Archive 1

Spring Heeled Jack connection?

the Victorian Monster was only known as Spring-Heeled Jack, not Jumping Jack Flash. I won't remove it, because I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but I believe it is not true. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.231.80.168 (talk) 16:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC).

the band has never mentioned it as an inspiration. Stan weller 20:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The similarities between JJF and Spring Heeled Jack are worth mentioning: jumping and the spring action of the Victorian creature could be seen as synonomous; "it's a gas, gas, gas" could be related to the spitting of blue flame by the creature; also the devil theme the Stones were using at the time could seen as related to the devilish appearance of Spring Heeled Jack. It is surprising no source that talks about these similarities can be found.Rockford1963 19:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Jackflash1.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Pop Culture/Legacy/Trivia Section

You should not just remove the "Pop Culture" or trivia sections from the song pages. Instead you must try to accomodate them into the articles. For more information on how to deal with Trivia sections, check Wikipedia:Trivia sections--66.253.145.149 (talk) 13:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Also please check Wikipedia:"In popular culture" articles before trimming anymore articles. --66.253.145.149 (talk) 13:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

NBC "Weekend"

Thinking back 30 years here, I'm pretty sure this song was used for the opening theme for the NBC television show Weekend. Probably worth a mention here. Typofixer76 (talk) 21:51, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

to the IP adding original research ...

please read Wikipedia's policy about original research. the songwriters' statements about the lyrics are already cited (with proper sources, in the "inspiration" section of the article. adding your personal interpretation of the meaning of the lyric is not appropriate; nor is edit warring to impose your additions against consensus. thanks for getting more familiar with Wikipedia's policies. Sssoul (talk) 05:53, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

from User:68.116.53.246

Please read: Wikipedia:What is an article?
A Wikipedia article is a page that has encyclopedic information on it.

There is little information in the article about the song "Jumpin' Jack Flash" itself, and Fair Use allows use in an encyclopedia to further human knowledge. There is no original research here, the point of view is neutral, and the analysis of the chorus is neutral.

Perhaps consider adding to the analysis of the chorus, with referenced data, rather than performing absolute reverts of data based upon nitpicking one bit of data as a justification for deletion of all the data.

The song's chorus is as follows:

"Jumpin' Jack flash, it's a gas
Jumpin' Jack flash, it's a gas
Jumpin' Jack flash, it's a gas
Jumpin' Jack flash, it's a gas"

The song's chorus uses rhyme and rhymes the sound of the letter "a" in the word "flash" with the same phonetic sound in the word "gas" that follows, in repetition.

thanks for using the talk page (i've removed the duplicate of your message, and slightly refactored it so that it's clear who wrote what (but please see Wikipedia:Sign#How to sign your posts regarding how this is normally done).

i see no (0) value in adding four repetitions of a single line of the song's "outro", misidentifying it as "the song's chorus" and providing an unsourced (and uninformative) "analysis" of it. there's already a link to the lyrics on the band's official website; unsourced "analyses" are against Wikipedia's "no original research" policy, which you need to get acquainted with; and edit warring is not an acceptable way to work on articles. again, thanks for getting more familiar with Wikipedia's policies. Sssoul (talk) 06:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Agree as above, the lyrics could be considered a copyvio, and the analysis if completely original research, and trivial at best. Dayewalker (talk) 07:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

"There is no original research here, the point of view is neutral, and the analysis of the chorus is neutral."68.116.53.246

Neutrality and bias do not factor into what is (or isn't) original research. 128.104.truth (talk) 21:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Nicky Hopkins?

I hear no piano on this song. Organ yes, piano no.Cbben (talk) 05:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

At the beginning, a piano can be heard, though barely audible.Zapspace (talk) 13:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Brian's involvement

how can he play the eguitar when his own article says: "From the 1967 album Between the Buttons until his death in 1969, Jones recorded just one guitar part: the slide guitar on "No Expectations" in 1968" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.255.86 (talk) 21:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

different sources state different things about the personnel and about Brian's contributions to the band's recordings. in the case of some tracks there isn't much eyewitness detail available, and/or the eyewitnesses contradict one another, so people are simply speculating. and please bear in mind that the Wikipedia article about Brian is not a reliable source. Sssoul (talk) 05:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

On page 239 of his autobiography, Keith Richards states that all of the guitars on Jumpin' Jack Flash are acoustic.Cbben (talk) 05:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Keith Richard's autobiography isn't a reliable source. That sounds funny, but it's true. It's is full of errors - either because he's forgot things, or he's just making things up. He makes various claims about song writing and recording, that just can't possibly be true. This is well documented on forums. He quite often makes claims about playing on tracks, or songwriting credits that are just impossible. I believe in one section, he claims to be the sole guitar player on a track, and he wasn't even in the same country when the sessions were recorded!

Keith holds a grudge. It's well known. A lot of his book is score-settling. Taking pops at people like Jagger and Jones, who he didn't get on with. I don't think you can use modern-day Keith as a reliable source for anything that went on with The Stones. If we had a quote from the 1960s, perhaps.

Speak to fans, on forums, and they will tell you that that not only did Brian Jones play guitar on this track, but he also probably wrote the main riff. Sometimes you just have to rely on your ears, and a trained ear will tell you it's pretty obvious that Jumping Jack Flash is using the Jones/Richards guitar weaving in the sessions

Cjmooney9 (talk) 16:35, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Similarity with Mr. Soul (Buffalo Springfield)

I wonder whether there is a real similarity / influence from Buffalo Springfield song "Mr. Soul". Not wanting to introduce OR here, just wondering if it is documented somewhere.--Dipa1965 (talk) 05:53, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

A quick Google seach on "Mr. Soul" "Jumpin' Jack Flash" yields several forums suggesting the same thing. The closest I could find to a reliable source is this, but even that is a bit shaky. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

AC/DC "Thunderstruck" similarities

The similarity between 1990's "Thunderstruck" (AC/DC) and this 22 years older song is so obvious I'm surprised there is no mention of it so far. It oversteps the border on plagiarism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2C4A:1CB0:6186:F7F7:1BF3:9D8F (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

Came to this page looking for info on JJF -- specifically, which Stones' album was this song eventually included on? Would like to maybe see a mention of that in the first paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.73.160.73 (talk) 01:19, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

just an addition, credit to: rtg, see video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ2mn9srxOI&list=RD9rGU44TWNrQ&index=5 or "Jamul - Jamul 1970 (FULL ALBUM) [Hard Rock Blues]" at time index 16:30. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.148.166 (talk) 18:13, 8 February 2018 (UTC)