Talk:June 2022 Afghanistan earthquake

Change title?

I think it should be changed to something along the lines of "2022 Afghan-Pakistani Earthquake", as it better reflects where it took place and be more accurate. Just an idea. PokeyMama (talk) 21:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

The epicenter was in Afghanistan, that's where the vast majority of deaths have been, and it's mostly being reported as an Afghan event. So I'd prefer to keep the current title per WP:WEIGHT. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:47, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok makes sense but I think if more people say like Pakistan Afghanistan earthquake we should change it. PokeyMama (talk) 21:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I messed it all up

File:AfghanistanEarthquake.png

I messed up the whole page and I'm very sorry I just tried to add my photo to it and Ive never edited Wikipedia and I'm sorry. Don't worry I'll just stick to reading it from now on. PokeyMama (talk) 21:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

It's been fixed already. This is not something that requires an admin (the template is {{Admin help}} FYI). You don't need to worry about it. You can use the H:PREVIEW button to check edits before publishing them. You can also use the HELP:UNDO button to revert any accidental edits. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@PokeyMama: We would love to have your image if you created it yourself. You'll have to upload it at c:Special:UploadWizard first. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

The picture you uploaded have no EXIF data attached. Are you completely sure you are the one who took it? It looks like a screenshot from a YouTube video @PokeyMama: --Trade (talk) 23:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes I screenshoted it from a Washington post artical. Is this not allowed? I'm sorry if I messed up again. PokeyMama (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

You do not own content created by the Washington Post or other news outlets they license content from. You are only able to upload files if they are your own work. You claimed when you uploaded the file that you created it, which you are now saying is not true. If you find yourself filling out false information in the upload form, then that is an indication you are doing it wrong. But don't sweat it. It's pretty common for new users to do this. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Requesting images

Could an editor find useful images to accompany the article? That would improve it. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 07:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

• Infographics. Some of those might be used depending on the copyright. In the German Wikipedia it says UNOSAT delivers free satellite imagery, so maybe screenshots of that PDF can be used? The ECHO daily map should be able to be uploaded similar to this. Doesn't give much additional information to the already existing images though. --Lupe (talk) 03:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, copyright info for UNOSAT-PDF here --Lupe (talk) 04:14, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Casualties

Maybe i'm missing something but the 2,000+ deaths in Afghanistan and 43 in Pakistan doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere but the infobox? --Trade (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

It's under the Impact header. The figure for Pakistan was summed up. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 15:04, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Number of deaths in Afghanistan

Can we confirm that 1,500+ people have died in Afghanistan? Most news sources STILL say over 1,000 are dead, even articles that were published minutes ago. Crannofonix (talk) 15:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

The Al Jazeera ref in the lead says 1,500. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 16:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

The latest report by AP suggest a death toll of 1,150 and 1,600 injured. I will add a range of casualties to the article. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 07:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

UN death toll + more info

Source: https://media.un.org/en/asset/k12/k12uzjas0r

Timestamp: 26:07 “As of late last night, at least 1,036 people were reported killed and more than 1,643 reported injured, at least 121 of these deaths were children and 67 of those injured were also children. The total number of people killed or injured is not yet confirmed, verifications are ongoing, and we expect to see these numbers going up in the hours and days to come.”

Timestamp: 39:18 “Barmal district in Paktika province reportedly has the highest number of casualties. Several thousand homes are destroyed and or damaged, children and adolescents are extremely vulnerable and at high risk of family separation, emotional and psychological distress, abuse and exploitation and other forms of violence.”

Timestamp: In the source provided, I cannot find it “Unfortunately, this morning at around 10:00 AM another tremor has hit again Gayan, one of the areas, and at least five deaths were reported but also 10 more injuries, and it's just making the situation on the ground more and more difficult. And we are planning tomorrow with the SRSG (UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General, Maalla M'jid) acting to be on the ground with WHO, WFP, UNHCR and OCHA.”

Timestamp: Source provided “UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, is rushing tons of relief items and deployed several expert staff to support relief efforts in the south eastern parts of Afghanistan that have been hit by Wednesday’s earthquake. The items include shelter and household supplies, consisting of tents, blankets, jerry cans, buckets, plastic sheets, kitchen sets and solar lamps. And the relief items were delivered from UNHCR’s stockpiles in Kabul and loaded onto nine trucks on Thursday (June 23).”comment added by Crannofonix (talk • contribs) 12:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

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GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:June 2022 Afghanistan earthquake/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 18:20, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for taking on this, been a while sitting there unreviewed. Looking forward to your feedbacks! Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 02:54, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Happy to review this article. AM

Quick fail of the nomination

The article is imo a long way from becoming a GA, and too much work needs to be done for me to continue working on my review comments. Below are some general and specific ideas for you or a future nominator to consider as a way of improving the article. Amitchell125 (talk) 08:19, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Lead section / infobox

• Unlink Afghanistan and other countries in the lead section and throughout the article (MOS:OL).
• The option of looking at a map of Pakistan seems unnecessary, as the earthquake zone is shown equally well (or perhaps better) in the Afghanistan map.
• Injured – ‘people injured’? Khyber Pakhtunkhwa - ‘ Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province’.
• Paktika, Paktia, Khost; Nangarhar – should be linked. There are a lot of other places in the article where I would say to add links, I have not listed these.
• There were 1,052–1,163 deaths and 1,627–2,976 injured in Afghanistan and Pakistan - these figures do not appear in the main text of the article. They need to be (along with the citations given, which then will not be needed in the lead).

Earthquake

• Apart from the issue of sandwiching it causes (see MOS:SANDWICH), the map is of little use here, it covers a large geographic area, is difficult to understand, it doesn’t cover the period described in the section’s text, and the location of the Khost earthquake is difficult to determine. I would delete the image.

Characteristics

• Duplicate link – thrust fault (there is a useful tool in the menu box which I would encourage you to use, in order to remove the other duplicate links in the article).

Impact

• This section needs to be copy edited to tidy up the information about the earthquake damage, and the human suffering. Some examples:

• the Afghanistan subsection contains in this order: total casualties – general causes of the destruction to buildings – total numbers of destroyed villages – the destruction in the provinces, a town, a district, a village, a different district, several districts – and the plight of a group of Pakistani refugees. The text needs to be better organized
• The 4 sentences of the first paragraph of the Aftermath section each deal with four different ideas.
• The following paragraph discusses the rescue efforts and the situation in the hospitals, but the next paragraph discusses both the situation in the hospitals,and the mass graves.
• The Domestic Response section includes further information about rescue efforts, the death toll, air-lifting victims, the roads and the lack of shelter (all mentioned previously), but also refers to UNICEF and an Italian relief organization, both of which are not imo domestic.

• It is the deadliest earthquake in Afghanistan since 2002, when over 1,200 people were killed in Baghlan Province - this has already been referred to at the top of the Earthquake section, and should be moved there.

Afghanistan

• The section is not about Afghanistan, but about the impact of the earthquake there, and the title should be amended to reflect this. Ditto Pakistan in the following section.
• Operation Zarb-i-Azb – could benefit from a brief explanation (perhaps in brackets), as it may not be familiar to readers.
• The image of the ruined house causes a sandwiching issue (MOS:SANDWICH), and as it does not illustrate the text in a particular, I would remove it.

Pakistan

• Move the link for North Waziristan District to where it first occurs (Characteristics section). There are other examples of where links similarly need to be moved.
• As over 1000 people were killed by the earthquake, it’s unclear to me why in this section the details of the deaths of a few individuals are included, or minor damage is mentioned.

Aftermath

• The images are not needed here, as rather than aiding understanding, they could be considered to be decorative. The helicopter one could maybe be retained, to give an impression of the landscape and the difficulty in reaching the victims. (MOS:PERTINENCE)

International response

• The 3 images have been enlarged unnecessarily.
• Induced – ‘imposed’.
• Link ₹ (Indian rupee); € (Euro). Unlink tents; sleeping bags; blankets (MOS:OL).

United States

• This subsection, a 4-paragraph discussion about talks, unfreezing assets, and politics, (and not about the earthquake itself) would benefit from being summarized down to about half its current size. or less.

Image gallery

• Galleries are generally avoided for articles of this kind (see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Images#Consideration_of_image_download_size for one reason). Instead, link to this using {{Commons}} in the external links section.

See also

• As the list of links in this section duplicates the links in the templates at the bottom of the article, this section should be removed.

References

• Ref 1 (International Seismological Centre) – the ISC should be wikilinked, not given an external link. Ditto Ref 41 (ReliefWeb).
• Ref 2 (Global CMT Catalog Search) – the title should match the title given on the website. Ditto Ref 3 (BBC); Ref 4 (APNews) All the references need to be checked to ensure the titles are correct.
• Ref 16 (emsc-csem.org) should be not in capitals. Ditto Ref 19 (Khac et al.)
• Ref 30 (TOLOnews) should not be used, as it comes from a Twitter account and so is not a RS (see WP:USERGENERATED).

External links

• The International Seismological Centre has a bibliography and/or authoritative data for this event - the bibliography is cited, so shouldn’t be linked here, and the ISC should be wikilinked.
• by Int'l Charter & UNOSAT – the information seems to be provided by ReliefWeb.
• Add the Commons category here ({{Commons}}).

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