Talk:Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2014

Maša & Lejla

I created the article for Maša & Lejla but shortly after publishing it I began to wonder if each singer should get their own individual page as they're really solo singers performing together rather than a singing group. This would be similar to Sopho Gelovani and Nodiko Tatishvili having individual pages rather than a single page for the duo. What are your thoughts? { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 16:36, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Azerbaijani withdrawal?

Today somebody wrote that Azerbaijan will be withdrawing for the forthcoming JESC. But I've checked with Eurovoix, Wiwibloggs, Junior Eurovision's official website, ESCToday and Oikotimes, but there are no sources telling that Azerbaijan will withdraw. #spaceon2 (talk) 18:28, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you know where you heard this? { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 18:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

The edit has been reverted. It was most likely vandalism, but on the other hand it could have been an innocent mistake. Wes Mouse 18:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Great. I was thinking "it must be vandalism" but I wasn't sure. So I asked some of you professionals! Anyway, thanks! #spaceon2 (talk) 18:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Spain as "non-active" EBU member

I'm not sure if listing Spain as a non-active EBU member is correct because, as far as I know, TVE has not withdrawn from the EBU. They have, however, somewhat stated that they're not interested in taking a representative to the Junior Eurovision, which is why parties interested in a Spanish representative are looking for another an alternative station. The issue is not that Spain is non-active, it is simply that the station affiliated with the EBU is not interested in participation, which is not the same as being inactive.T.W. (talk) 16:01, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

The reason that Spain is "non-active" is because the only broadcasters in consideration are non-members of the EBU. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 18:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

T.W. is correct in pointing out that TVE are a member of the EBU. However, it is one of Spain's other broadcasters that are not a member of the EBU that the EBU are negotiating with to compete. So in theory listing as a "non-active" is correct; although it may be more helpful to elaborate this factor on the article to avoid any subsequent confusion. Wes Mouse 08:57, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, "non-active" as a contest participant, got it. It sounded like "non-active" as a EBU member, as if the membership had been put on hold. T.W. (talk) 16:20, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Huh? It is "non-active" as in EBU member. Complexed I know, because it means we've listed Spain twice; but we have no other choice as we're dealing with two Spanish broadcasters - one has active membership, the other does not. To simplify better. TVE are an active member of the EBU. TVE have said no to returning to the contest. The EBU are negotiating with other private Spanish broadcasters (such as Antena 3, Cuatro, Telecinco, and laSexta) - all of which do not have active EBU membership. So it looks as if the EBU are breaking the "required active membership rule" in order to try and get Spain back in the contest. Wes Mouse 17:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

The Slovenian song

According to the JESC official website, the Slovenian song has not being revealed yet. Even Oikotimes and Eurovoix have not confirmed "Nisi Sam" as the Slovenian entry. So, wich website is telling that the Slovenian entry is "Nisi Sam"? #spaceon2 (talk) 12:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I agree I have no clue where people are getting this song title from so I'm removing it until the song is released later today unless someone provides an adequate source. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 13:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Ok. Great, thanks!! #spaceon2 (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

The title of the Slovenian song is not "Niši sam" as written on the page. It's "Nisi sam".Ervin.juhasz (talk) 19:16, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Well the user above is clearly an editor from JuniorEurovision.tv. Thank you for clarifying the song title. The article will be modified in due course. Wes Mouse 19:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Btw, the English title "Your Light" also remains, I'm sorry I wasn't completely clear in my previous message. So the song title is: Nisi sam / Your Light.Ervin.juhasz (talk) 20:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah, OK thank you. I will change it again. Apologies, I'm distracted with updating Wikipedia articles on Eurovision Young Musicians, something that isn't an easy task when limited on information. Wes Mouse 20:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Spokesperson Belarus JESC2014

The spokesperson of Belarus (JESC 2014) is Katerina Taperkina.

Source: https://twitter.com/ESCKAZ/status/512164925305651200 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.194.80.150 (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2014

A new international radio Broadcaster from Peru : Du Pont's Radio. There is in the spanish version of the talk. But is not here. Diegum (talk) 22:33, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Are there any reliable sources to verify this? Without such, we cannot include it in the article. Wes Mouse | ^T@lk 06:50, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

This is the reference: https://www.facebook.com/dupontsradio/photos/a.704976142927269.1073741826.704970379594512/720204748071075/?type=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegum (talk • contribs) 00:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Facebook and other social media websites are not reliable sources. -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 00:40, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2014

Ewan Spence is listed as a co-commentator for many Junior Eurovision 2014 broadcasts on Wikipedia. Ewan was the host and co-ordinator of the show, but was not the only commentator on the broadcasts involving him. Ewan was joined by Glen Bartlett, Ben Robertson and Emma Backfish for the show. Glen was the commentator for the show itself, Emma the interval act and Ben for the voting period/analysis. Ewan was the host throughout. All should be credited as co-commentators alongside Ewan. The picture of the team pre-show below shows all the commentators directly from Ewan's Instagram http://instagram.com/p/vbeFtQoZu2/ 213.136.44.12 (talk) 10:23, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2014/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Royroydeb (talk · contribs) 08:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

• ... that the contest was hosted by the previous year's winning country - the next phrase about Malta is unnecessary as it is already included here. Instead link previous year
• and was held in - only "in" is sufficient
• a well-known Maltese television - remove well known
• broadcaster unhesitatingly - unhesitatingly, clarification needed
• who is anton attard?
• origami look - make it clear
• presenting recent editions - the use of the word recent is discouraged
• the last line of the para is unsourced
• the host broadcaster - host word is unnecessary
• 'pre-draw' - no need of inverted comma
• It was decided - by whom?
• it was announced - again by whom?
• Unfortunately, due to the website - remove unfortunately and also it is unsourced
• the points in the table is unsourced
• it needs to be an active member - what does active signify?
• they believed the contest would not be a success under the German standards. - Clarify

Wesley Mouse

• @Royroydeb: sorry for the delay, I had not noticed my name being pinged via the notifications. I'm not sure if there was a malfunction, but nevertheless I am here finally.

I have addressed all of the points you raised above. The first two for the lead section are now corrected. I have removed the words "well-known", and "unhesitatingly". The latter I felt is unnecessary, as the broadcaster was "eager" to host, but that eagerness feels rather undue in these circumstances. I have added clarification on who Anton Attard is, and also changed the context of "origami look", so that it now reads "origami-like appearance". The word "recent" has also been removed. I've moved the source in the "hosts" section to the very end, as it was citing the entire content. I'm somewhat confused how to signify "active"; as the broadcasting union has different "groups" for the European national broadcasters. Any within the EBU area are classified as being "active". The only way I can think to signify this better, is to pipelink the phrase "active member of the European Broadcasting Union", and hopefully that would provide additional significance for those unfamiliar with the entire EBU's membership structure. Let me know if there are any other issues, and just in case the notification thing doesn't work again, would it be possible to leave me a {{talk back}} note via my talk page? Thank you. Wes Mouse | ^T@lk 15:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

OK, I find it alright to pass it now. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 07:55, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: that is fantastic news. Any idea on when the GA pass will have been updated on the article? Wes Mouse | ^T@lk 10:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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