Talk:Junk Raiders

Junk Raiders 2

They are about to air the second season, Does anyone want to edit this to say this? Since I'm on the show, I probably shouldn't be the one editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.198.87.31 (talk) 17:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I think this article should be renamed Junk Raiders 1, and an overview/series article be created for Junk Raiders as a series, like Canada's Worst Handyman. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 05:36, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not particularly fond of that approach in the case of Canada's Worst Handyman either, as it lends itself to the accretion of far too much trivia that we don't really need (e.g. entirely too much unreferenced biographical detail about contestants who are fundamentally private citizens rather than public figures, hence presenting a WP:BLP1E problem.) Personally, I think Wikipedia's entire handling of reality shows in general — the idea that we need to carefully document each and every time someone in the Big Brother house sneezes on camera — is absolutely for shit. But I'm an orchestra of one on that issue, so don't mind me. Bearcat (talk) 05:48, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

WP's reality show handling is fairly inadequate for reality shows and documentaries in general, and most of the edits done on CWD, CWH, and this series (as a contributor to all of each) are largely elaborations from official sources (as well as picking through the primary source). That's all I can say on that matter. kelvSYC (talk) 06:03, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Junk Raiders 3

Looks like the casting call is out for JR3... so this probably should be renamed to Junk Raiders 1 (Junk Raiders (season 1)), and "Junk Raiders" should become the series article (or Junk Raiders (TV series)...) 70.24.247.54 (talk) 11:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 1

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The result of the move request was: No move. No indication the proposed name is used in the sources Cúchullain ^t/c 15:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Junk Raiders → Junk Raiders 1 – this article only covers the first season. Since "Junk Raiders" would more likely refer to teh whole series, or the latest season (Junk Raiders 3 at the moment), the first season should be displaced and a disambiguation page emplaced in its place. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC) 65.92.181.190 (talk) 11:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

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The first series is presumably called "Junk Raiders". The numbers were only added for the sequels. DrKiernan (talk) 15:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Though since there have been additional seasons, the first is now frequently referred to as "1" and "season 1" in conversation, and the plain name is used to indicate all the seasons, or the entire series in general. So the first season no longer represents what is construed as "Junk Raiders". -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 07:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Junk Raiders 1 created during this discussion as a WP:SPINOUT. The sub-articles are lacking in sources and arguably notability too, so are at risk of being merged back in/redirected... but that's a potential separate discussion to this move request. -- Trevj (talk) 10:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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(non-admin closure) Junk Raiders → Junk Raiders (season 1) – per Talk:The Amazing Race Canada, this is only the season 1 article, not the series, article, it should be cleared to allow for a set index of all seasons, prior to establishing a series article. 65.92.181.39 (talk) 05:01, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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• Oppose. There's no need to move this. Just create a separate article for Junk Raiders (season 1), and break out the materials that are only pertinent to that season. bd2412 T 00:32, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
  • This is the season 1 article, there's nothing else in this article except season 1. Creating a separate article for season 1 would be copying all the contents of this article over. We have separate articles for seasons 2 and 3 already. -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 06:55, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
    • Not everything. The lede would stay the same. The rest of the material would be condensed in the original article to make room for comparisons and contrasts with the later seasons. bd2412 T 00:48, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
      • No, even the lead only applies to season 1, each season has a different scenario for construction. Even the dollar amount for season 1 is different from 2 and 3. Only season 1 involved an apartment. Besides that, the entire edit history applies to season 1, so it makes no sense to separate season 1 from its own edit history. -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 04:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
        • In order to demonstrate what I mean (and since this move request has clearly failed), I have gone ahead and split out Junk Raiders 1 while retaining this article as a series article, and reusing much of the material that was in the article already. bd2412 T 19:18, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose. Even if the article were moved, we'd still need a Junk Raiders article for the series. This is a case for a split and rewrite, not a move.--Cúchullain ^t/c 18:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Again, why wouldn't you keep the edit history with season one, where almost all the information on this page has only ever dealt with season 1? Why would you separate the edit history for season 1 from the season 1 article? After moving this article, at the least, a set index for all the seasons would exist, pending a series article. If we split this article and 99.9% of the article left this page and only 0.1% of this article remained here, how is this helpful in keeping contributor attribution together with the content they contributed? -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 05:20, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

This article was the original one to cover this series. As such it makes more sense to leave it where it is, expand it appropriately, and split off a season article, than to move this and then create a new article with the same title. Once the split is done, we can just leave appropriate notice at the new page telling future editors that previous edit history is found here; that's what's done with all splits.--Cúchullain ^t/c 00:02, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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