Talk:Junto (club)

Connection to the American Philosophica

POTPORS I removed the statement that the Junto eventually became the American Philosophical Society. This was incorrect, although it is fair to say that Franklin was inspired by the Junto when he launched the APS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Cabot (talk • contribs) 20:07, July 16, 2006

Pronunciation

I believe Franklin's Junto is pronounced with a hard "J" sound as in the normal English pronounciation; even though the roots are from the Spanish and Portuguese, junta. Even junta in English was pronounced with the hard "J" until the latter part of the 20th Century. -DialUp 19:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Although I must correct your spelling of "pronunciation" I am tempted to agree with your main point. But more proof is needed. Do you have a reference? The main article says the word is Latin, but that's wrong: the Latin would be "juncto", and would be ablative (or dative) singular, ie., unlikely. It is Spanish rather, and according to etymonline.com entered English in the early 1600's in re of the cabinet of Charles I. "Junto" is masculine singular, so inaccurate anyway. A realistic use is "estar junto a ti es como si estaviare en paraiso" -- "to be joined to thee is as if I were in paradise" ProudPrimate (talk) 10:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Sources

Much of the content on this page appears to come from this PBS site without reference http://www.pbs.org/benfranklin/l3_citizen_networker.html

Hmm, this looks like a copyright problem. The whole thing should be rewritten. Also, does anyone have a reference for the list of questions? It doesn't appear to come from the autobiography -Rbean 16:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Answering my own question here-- the questions come from Franklin's other papers (dated 1728), and they're included in some editions of the autobiography (along with various other documents). I'll add a note about this to the page. Also re the copyright issue-- before I fixed the formatting, this was an obvious cut & paste job by someone who doesn't understand wiki markup, so I don't think the other site got it from here. -Rbean 23:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Rock band?

The part about the Australian rock band doesn't belong here-- should be split off to its own page. -Rbean 16:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Does the stuff on NYC Junto or Junto Partners even belong here? Both seem to me to be such blatant vanity that reading them would present a far greater case for their removal than I could hope to make.

Anyway, if no one objects, I'll remove them in a few days. TerraFrost 00:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

NYC Junto and Junto Partners have been removed. I also removed the rock band. If someone wants to read the information or start a new article or something, the orig. stuff can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Junto&oldid=33575157 TerraFrost 07:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Which Junto?

Isn't the Whig Junto of the late 17th and early 18th centuries more notable than the one detailed in this article? john k 22:39, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Given that we have three meanings of which Whig Junto and the political cabal that Pym was a prominent member was known as the Junto (1640s) are the prominent meanings, I suggest that we move this page to Junto (club) and the dab page to here. -- PBS (talk) 22:51, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Amherst Junto?

Where can I find more information about this? wubrgamer (talk) 15:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I have added a citation needed tag to this section of the article.wubrgamer (talk) 15:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Money

Removed the reference to money in the first sentence of the History section. Franklin's Biography and other references do not indicate money was a primary motivation for the group. BenDoGood (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Mistaken use

Where does the content "...(the word is a mistaken use of the masculine singular Spanish adjective "joined", mistaken for the feminine singular noun "junta", "a meeting". Both derive from Latin "iunct-", past participle of "iungere", "to join")..." come from?

I am sure with an IQ of probably better than 140 (150-160) that Franklin and other members (many that were likely genius' also) did not mistakenly use a name or an incorrect spelling. Otr500 (talk) 03:54, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

First time editing so apologies: I believe Junto is from the latin meaning more "together" than assembly. Juntos in Spanish is together and I submit together is a more accurate meaning than assembly how Franklin would translate it. There is more in on this in Lemay's chapter on the Junto. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.36.49.68 (talk) 21:50, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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Modern-Day Juntos

This section is full of the internet equivalent of graffiti. Nobody enjoys being told they're irrelevant, but the vast majority of "juntos" listed under this section are notable only to their members. There are very few entries which are properly given even a cursory attempt at referencing, and fewer still that manage to establish a link to another entity that would prove its worth. The section should be deleted, and should any annotation be considered relevant enough to be included in its associated Wiki page, it should be included there rather than providing a platform for self-important, modern-day "Junto" wannabes to stamp their hand in the wet concrete and write "I was here too!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:8104:C490:3581:820B:76F5:4438 (talk) 01:44, 9 December 2016 (UTC) That section appears to be gone now -- but one of the three links in the "External Links" section appears to be to the webpage of some thing calling itself "Junto" that has no connection whatever to Franklin's other than borrowing its name and holding events in Philadelphia. (Also, that page prominently advertises an upcoming event in 2014; it is now late 2018.) I'm removing it. Gareth McCaughan (talk) 01:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Good catch. I don't know how I missed that; I've trimmed a bunch of spam from this page over the years. Pinkbeast (talk) 03:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)