Talk:Jurnal al-Khidiw

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@إيان: Your spelling is missing an ⟨i⟩. خديوى is pronounced /xɪdeːwi/ in Arabic and /xɯdive/ in Turkish; the Persian origin خدیو is irrelevant here; which makes the current spelling incorrect for both languages. Either change the current title from Jurnal al-Khidiw to ...wi or ...ve. Alternatively, just change the title to the English translation. --Esperfulmo (talk) 22:04, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello Esperfulmo, Wikipedia has a policy of WP:No original research. Content on Wikipedia has to be supported by WP:Reliable sources. “Jurnal Al-Khidiw” is how the name appears on page 28 of the reliable source ‘’Arabic Type-Making in the Machine Age’’ cited in the article. If you have a reliable source that says something different, we can evaluate and discuss. إيان (talk) 01:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Also the first periodical in Turkish?

It seems that Jurnal al-Khidiw (1821–1822) was the first periodical published in the Turkish language, Al-Waqa'i' al-Misriyya (1828–ongoing) was the second one and the Ottoman Takvim-i Vekayi (1831–1922) was only the third. Is that correct? If yes, this fact should be mentioned in the article. — UnladenSwallow (talk) 21:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

There was apparently a publication called Curnalü'l-Irâk, in Turkish and Arabic in 1816. https://islamansiklopedisi.org.tr/takvim-i-vekayi

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Towards_a_Better_Life_How_to_Improve_the/ITaAc0CVZHgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=journal إيان (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. The Arabic article on Journal Iraq states that it was printed lithographically (same as Jurnal al-Khidiw) and distributed only to high-ranking officials (same as Jurnal al-Khidiw). That makes Al-Waqa'i' al-Misriyya the first newspaper in Arabic (and in Turkish) printed with movable type and in relatively large runs. — UnladenSwallow (talk) 20:45, 27 February 2023 (UTC)