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the end of his presidency
Juscelino wasn't "kicked out of the office". He ended his presidential period and he was succeded by Janio Quadros my name is juscelino and I like this name. And when I listen this word I became so happy, and I would like to know more about his history, if you can lend same thing to me I will be totaly thank you-my address-(Rua Baroneza de Goitacazes n°98 apart 102 Barreto Niterói RJ Brasil)
Photo Caption?
I am almost completely sure that the woman shown with Kubitschek is not his wife Sarah (née Sarah Luiza Gomes de Lemos, 1909-1996). Here is a link to a photo of Juscelino and Sarah Kubitschek, taken in the late 1940s
And here is a link to a brief biographical sketch in Portuguese about Sarah Kubitschek
Since the woman in the photo used in the article seems to be in her 20s and the style of her dress is that of the early 1960s, I think that the woman is one of Kubitschek's daughters. I suspect that she is Márcia Kubitschek (1942-2000), who represented the Federal District (Brasília) in the Brazilian Congress from 1987 to 1991 and then was lieutenant governor (vice-governadora) of the Federal District from 1991 to 1994.
— Diamantina 08:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Kubíček
It is widely known that Kubitschek was of Czech (and not Slovak) descent. His great-grandfather was Jan Nepomuk Kubíček, one of the first Czech immigrants in Brazil.
It is widely known in Brazil that he was from a gipsy czech family. It is cited in the Portuguese wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junfonseca (talk • contribs) 23:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC) Huh? What is the basis of this claim? Just sheer population growth of S.P.? Where is the research? Where is the statistically tested evidence?
We need references to be cited. This is the typical big-city hubris I read constantly all over Wikipedia and I am getting rather sick of it. Not everything is about big cities today and not everything in the world is shifting to big cities. And if you'd bother to do some research into concepts like Christaller's Central place theory, you'd understand how cities have developed over the past, oh ... 10 thousand years!
I suspect that this article -- like many others that seem to espouse life in the biggest cities in each country -- is written by somebody young. Someone under the age of 30.
One indication of this is, of course, the lack of knowledge about rigorous academic principles, evidenced by this person not having cited this claim about transfer of, uh, "clout", to S.P.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atikokan (talk • contribs) 05:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
They built this city on....
"Much of the investment in industry was funded by printing money"
Can anyone cite this, because this link says the they were able to afford to built Brasilia on the money the country made drung WWII selling rubber to the United States for the war effort. Santos89
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980CE3D6123EF930A15752C1A9609C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
Actually, this article quotes a single union leader who makes this claim. I have been unable to find other references to substantiate it. Do you know of any? Certainly a lot of money was made out of the rubber industry during WWII, but how much actually went into the Brazilian economy and how much went to Vargas and his cronies? Brazil had (and still has) some of the best politicians money can buy. American In Brazil (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Tone/sources
Content entirely aside (I am no expert on Kubitschek), the tone and lack of references are just not Wiki-appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.82.144 (talk) 23:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree; the article needs additional citations. Surely there are numerous references in Portuguese and English about JK, a seminal figure in the modern history of Brazil. American In Brazil (talk) 04:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Golden Years section
This section is only tangentially related to the subject. First, it states generalizations about Brazil without a single reference source. Second, JK took office as President in 1956, whereas the section refers to progress throughout the 1950s. JK cannot be credited with national expansion before he took office. Certainly, JK cannot be credited with Brazil winning the World Cup in 1958 or the success of a Brazilian tennis star. Finally, much of it is ungrammatical (which is perhaps the easiest thing to fix). Unless someone has objections, I am going to remove it in the next week to 10 days or replace its broad claims with more specific references to JK's presidency. This is a WP article, gente. Let's all stick to the subject! American In Brazil (talk) 21:48, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
No Gypsy origin
Erroneously, Kubitschek is often thought to be of the Gypsy/Romani heritage. However, no credible source says it. The confusion arises from the fact that in the Romance languages, the word Bohemian means Gypsy, because apparently Gypsies in the Middle Ages came to France via Bohemia. Kubitschek is of Czech (Bohemian) origin, not Gypsy/Romani origin. 2A00:1028:919E:BE42:11E5:6F0F:C9A3:C98E (talk) 17:29, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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Suggested edits.
The article has a good foundation, but as echoed by other members of the talk page there are also grammatical issues, inaccuracies, and claims that are not cited. There is also some language presented that comes off as biased, and wikipedia strives to have articles presented in a neutral point of view. While the corruption allegations page is interesting, it does not go into specific details of the types of corruption Juscelino was accused of and if any of those claims had substantial evidence. I will try to investigate with more sources these claims. In discussion about moving the capital from Rio de Janiero to Brasilia there is not discussion how the opposition party (UDN) at the time, opposed any measure President Kubitschek made to try and move the capital, and how controversial this move actually was, it almost glosses the issue over and makes it seem like this was a universally accepted move. I will edit this section to detail more about the battle to move the capital. The article discusses Juscelino's popular economic platforms, and while it gives figures of debt accrued by Juscelino's administration for development, it lacks citations to these numbers. It should also be noted Juscelino did a lot more than just economic development, when I searched for articles about Kubitschek relay his contributions to improving the public health of the country, most notably in his Presidency he created DNER, an agency to combat disease and infections in rural areas and to issue vaccines. Articles I came across mentioned how his administration championed a central health bureaucracy to improve sanitation and eradicate widespread illnesses. No doubt being a Doctor before jumping into Politics, the issue of public health had personal importance to him. I also suggest getting rid of the claim his ancestors were gypsies as there are no credible sources at the moment to verify this. More sources and background regarding Kubitchek's years as Governor of Minas Gerais and as a Deputy to the Chamber of Deputies would provide a better overview of his political careers (ie: what type of bills he voted on, statements he has made to press, campaign speeches, statements from those close to him).
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