Talk:Just Be Yourself

Requested move 26 January 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. As proposed, with the disambiguation page kept. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 09:41, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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• Just Be Yourself (Jim Mancel song) → Just Be Yourself
• Just Be Yourself → Just Be Yourself (disambiguation)

– Only article with this title. A hatnote can be added to this page as a reference to the song by Twice. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:23, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Note: pages with content are ineligible as "new" pages in a move request unless they, too, are proposed to be somehow dispositioned. In this case Just Be Yourself → Delete to make room for move had to be added to this request. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 01:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Note2: see that more entries were added to the dab page, so rather than delete it, the proposal should be to rename with a "dab" qualifier – 'twas altered this date. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 11:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nomination. Just Be Yourself → delete to make room for move. A hatnote would indeed suffice. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:01, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Tassedethe (talk) 01:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 04:38, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose deletion of dab there are several other songs. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

And not greatly enthusiastic about a 37-charting Canadian song from 1977 being the world primary topic for such a common phrase when the Twice and Cameo songs come up on YouTube and this one doesn't. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, after looking at page views for the artists other songs; Oppose this song isn't more notable than either of the other singles, let alone more notable than both combined. It seems rather arbitrary that an article was created for this and not for the other two which are better known, more recent, more evident. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:39, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

• Support moving this article to the primary title, as it's the only actual article to have this title. Oppose deletion of the DAB, as it's useful and lightweight to keep around; would be better to move it to Just Be Yourself (disambiguation). ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:49, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per In ictu oculi. When this nomination was posted, the Just Be Yourself disambiguation page consisted of one entry delineating a 1977 song and one WP:DABMENTION. Now, however, this dab page consists of the 1977 song and six WP:DABMENTIONS. As a result, I am striking my original "support" vote, above, and am replacing it with this "oppose" vote. The Just Be Yourself dab page should thus remain, but the 46-year-old song does not have the historical standing to become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over the six WP:DABMENTIONS. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support but keep DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:54, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support move. I created the article. I didn't know what to do when I saw Just Be Yourself re-directing to the Celebrate (Twice album) page, and not wanting to disturb it, I created the Just Be Yourself (Jim Mancel song) page. I was briefly thinking about creating Just Be Yourself (song) but went and created Just Be Yourself (Jim Mancel song). Well, regardless of what other songs have whatever recent releases or chart status, I think this Jim Mancel version pre-dates them. Karl Twist (talk) 09:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
• Comment. For clarity, this page was created with [this edit] on 24 January 2023 by editor Karl Twist, and the Just Be Yourself title was converted from a redirect to a dab page with [this edit] later on 24 January 2023 by editor Inwind. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 11:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
• Support because current title is unnecessary disambiguation. There are no other topics with this name that have WP articles. The Oppose argument is a rationalization based on the JDLI personal preference to have most if not all songs at "Song name (artist)". That's not our convention. --В²C ☎ 17:07, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.