Talk:Körber

Edit request (2021-11-17)

Hello all.

The entry about Körber AG currently has quality flaws. Here is a suggestion for improvement. I am acting on behalf of the agency C3 Creative Code and Content GmbH. Their customer is Körber AG. My suggestion here on this talk page is a paid edit.

I would be happy if the suggestion would be critically reviewed and used to improve the article about Körber AG.

Many thanks in advance
Atomiccocktail (talk) 08:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended content

Körber AG Company type Aktiengesellschaft Industry machines, software, technology Founded July 14, 1946 Founder Kurt A. Körber Headquarters Hamburg , Germany Key people Stephan Seifert (Chairman of the Group Executive Board) Revenue Euro 1.76 billion (2020) Number of employees 10,584 (2020) Website www.koerber.com Körber AG, which is based in Hamburg, is a strategic management holding that oversees the group and its five business areas: Digital, Pharma, Supply Chain, Tissue, and Tobacco. In 2020, the group had approximately 10,000 employees at more than 100 locations worldwide and generated sales of €1.76 billion in 2020.  Done up to this point with edits. Heartmusic678 (talk) 12:01, 14 January 2022 (UTC) History 1946 to 1992 On July 14, 1946, Kurt A. Körber paved the way for the first business deals in Hamburg. On February 1, 1947, he established Hauni Maschinenfabrik Körber & Co. KG (from 1958: Hauni-Werke Körber & Co. KG). The company originally only produced machines for the tobacco industry. In 1953, it moved to a new location within Hamburg's Bergedorf district. One year later, it had more than 1,000 employees. The group's international expansion began in 1948, when Eric M. Warburg, who had been living in exile, helped Kurt A. Körber establish contacts to American cigarette manufacturers. In 1951, Körber's machines were successful at a tobacco trade show in Amsterdam. By 1953 his company exported 80 percent of its products, and machines from Hauni plants were used in 48 countries. In 1955, the company established a plant in Richmond, Virginia, which was followed by additional facilities through the mid-1960s. The diversification of the company began in 1970, when it purchased E. C. H. Will, a manufacturer of paper-processing machines that was based in Hamburg-Lokstedt. The new business area was strengthened in 1976 through the acquisition of Womako Maschinenkonstruktion GmbH (Stuttgart). At the request of German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, Körber purchased the grinding machine manufacturer Blohm in Bergedorf in 1978. It served as the nucleus for the company's third business area. The acquisition of Schaudt Maschinenbau GmbH (Stuttgart and Ellwangen) in 1983 broadened its foundation. In the mid-1980s, the group generated sales of over one billion DM for the first time. On June 17, 1987, the group was transformed into Körber AG, which absorbed Hauni-Werke Körber & Co. KG. 1992 – present Following the decease of the company's founder, Kurt A. Körber, on August 10, 1992, the assets of Körber AG were transferred to the Körber Foundation. Until then, the foundation had held 34.9 percent of the shares. The foundation was created on January 1, 1981, through the merger of the Kurt A. Körber Stiftung (established in 1959) and the Hauni Stiftung (established in 1969). Since then, the group's annual dividend has been paid out completely to the Körber Foundation. In 1995, Körber AG was turned into a management holding, which supervised the group's three business areas at the time. In the 1990s, the group's grinding machine segment, Schleifring, was under pressure due to restructuring costs, exchange rates, fluctuating commodity prices, and a tough price war within the sector. The business area for paper processing expanded during these years. Among other things, this was due to the acquisition of two Italian companies for the production and packaging of tissue products and the gradual purchase of a majority holding in a machine manufacturer for the production of envelopes and other paper products. In 2012, Körber divested itself of several subsidiaries for paper processing machines, including E. C. H. Will. In 2002, the company entered a new market: packaging for pharmaceutical products. In the following years, this segment was expanded further through acquisitions. It has been a separate business area since 2009. As a result of a number of restructuring measures, Körber was divided into seven Business Areas in 2015: Automation, Logistics Systems, Machine Tools, Pharma Systems, Tissue, Tobacco, and Corporate Ventures. In 2017, the business area Körber Digital was added. It manages the digitization of the group and the development of new digital business models. One year later, the group sold the business areas Machine Tools and Automation. Since 2020, the group and its business areas and companies have appeared as a single, unified brand: Körber. The only exception is the business area Tobacco, which operates on the market as the Hauni Group. Group structure The group is active in five business areas: The business area Digital manages the digital advancement of the entire group and develops new digital business models and ventures. The business area Pharma offers solutions for processes for the manufacturing, inspection, and packaging of medications and for the traceability of these products. The business area Supply Chain focuses on technologies for production logistics. Its product range includes software, automation solutions, voice applications, robotics, and transportation systems. The business area Tissue offers processing and packaging machines for hygienic tissue paper (toilet paper, kitchen towels, folded paper napkins, and paper towels). The business area Tobacco supports manufacturers that process tobacco, produce filters and cigarettes, offer measuring and analysis equipment, and produce flavoring—it also does this for new tobacco products in the heat-not-burn and vaping categories. Additionally, they offer machines for the production of drinking straws.  Done with edits, including organizing the history section by chronology, rearanging words for language, removing redundancy in the Group structure section and removing the italics from company and business division names. I also updated the citation formatting for the book Kurt A. Körber : Annäherungen an einen Stifter. Heartmusic678 (talk) 15:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC) Further reading Hauser, Evelyn, updated by Cohen, M. L.: Körber AG. In: International Directory of Company Histories. Vol. 173, Farmington Hills: St. James Press, Farmington Hills, San Francisco, New York, 2016, pp. 351–356. Schmid, Josef; Wegner, Dirk: Kurt A. Körber. Annäherungen an einen Stifter. Mit einem Vorwort von Helmut Schmidt. Hamburg: Edition Körber-Stiftung, 2002. ISBN 978-3-89684-020-2. References References External links Official website

Edit request (2022-12-01) - Three proposals

Hello all.

The name of a business unit has changed. This should be fully taken into account, also with better sources. Here is a suggestion for improvement. I am acting on behalf of the agency C3 Creative Code and Content GmbH. Their customer is Körber AG. My suggestion here on this talk page is a paid edit.

I would be happy if the suggestion would be critically reviewed and used to improve the article about Körber AG.

Many thanks in advance
Atomiccocktail (talk) 12:14, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

1) Paragraph 1.2 1990–present: please replace a source

The source for the sentence "From September 2022 onwards, the Hauni Group was renamed to Körber Technologies." should be replaced. The better source is: <ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.abendblatt.de/region/stormarn/article236529131/koerber-konzern-zieht-hauni-von-bergedorf-nach-stapelfeld-was-dafuer-spricht.html |title=Zieht Hauni von Bergedorf nach Stapelfeld? Was dafür spricht |last=Soukup |first=René |website=[[Hamburger Abendblatt]]|date=2022-09-27 |access-date=1 December 2022 |language=de |trans-title=Is Hauni moving from Bergedorf to Stapelfeld? What speaks for it}}</ref>

2) Paragraph 2 Group structure: Replace an older source with a current one

The first sentence of the "Group structure" section reads: "The group is active in five business divisions". The sources should be: <ref>See [https://www.koerber.com/en home of company website]. Retrieved 1 December 2022.</ref><ref>Information about the structure is also provided by Kopp, Martin (3 December 2020). ''Körber-Maschinen derzeit gefragt. Hamburger Konzern liefert Lösungen für Verpackungen von Corona-Impfstoff''. In: ''Bergedorfer Zeitung'', 3 December 2020.</ref>

Reason: The source "Geschäftsbericht 2018" still mentions an old name for one of the five business units. This source is no longer up to date.

3) Paragraph 2 Group structure: The business unit "Tobacco" is no longer called that, the description should be shortened and updated

The paragraph on Tobacco reads:

* Tobacco supports manufacturers that process tobacco, produce filters and cigarettes, offer measuring and analysis equipment, and produce flavoring—it also does this for new tobacco products in the [[Heated tobacco product|heat-not-burn]]<ref>The tobacco is heated by a heating system but not burned, as is the case with conventional cigarettes, for example. Cf. {{cite web|title=Tabakerhitzer|periodical=[[Deutsches Krebsforschungszentrum]] (online)|publisher=|url=https://www.dkfz.de/de/tabakkontrolle/download/Publikationen/FzR/FzR_2018_Tabakerhitzer.pdf|url-status=|format=|access-date=|archive-url=|archive-date=|last=Katrin Schaller, Sarah Kahnert, Silke Kropp, Ute Mons|date=2018|year=|language=DE|pages=|quote=}}</ref><ref>Voigt, Thomas (15 June 2018). ''Fast wie vor der Krise: Hauni hat sich erholt''. In: ''Bergedorfer Zeitung'', 15 June 2018.</ref> and [[Electronic cigarette|vaping]] categories.<ref> An example of such activities can be found at {{cite web|title=Facial biometrics from Authenteq integrated with vaping products to cut underage use|periodical=biometricupdate.com|publisher=|url=https://www.biometricupdate.com/201910/facial-biometrics-from-authenteq-integrated-with-vaping-products-to-cut-underage-use|url-status=|format=|access-date=|archive-url=|archive-date=|last=Chris Burt|date=2019-10-15|year=|language=EN|pages=|quote=}}</ref> Additionally, the division offers machines for the production of [[drinking straw]]s.<ref>{{cite web|title=Safety first: 360° Foodservice establishes EU paper straw charter amid "unfair and fraudulent" competition|periodical=packaginginsights.com|publisher=|url=https://www.packaginginsights.com/news/safety-first-360-foodservice-establishes-eu-paper-straw-charter-amid-unfair-and-fraudulent-competition.html|url-status=|format=|access-date=|archive-url=|archive-date=|last=Anni Schleicher|date=2021-04-13|year=|language=EN|pages=|quote=}}</ref>

It should be replaced with:

* Technologies is responsible for offerings in the fields of machinery, equipment, software, measuring instruments and flavors. It also develops services, particularly for the luxury food industry.<ref>''Hauni wird Körber''. In: ''Die Tabak Zeitung'', August 24, 2022.</ref>

 Partly done: Cheers Atomic, I have done 1) and 2), but I am a bit hesitant to do 3): The current Jahresabschluss for GJ 2021 (dated 25 March 2023, published by the Bundesanzeiger on 6 April 2023) still describes the business unit as "Tabak". I suppose that they might have changed the naming since 2021; is this supported by the "Die Tabak Zeitung" reference? Best regards, -- Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 19:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Johannes Maximilian:. Thanks for your help. About your questions:

The article in the Tabak Zeitung clearly states the fact of the renaming. It also describes, as formulated in my proposal, the fields of competence of "Technologies".

I'll quickly give you two more quotes from the local newspapers (Bergedorfer Zeitung and Hamburger Abendblatt):

Q1

… Die Zeit drängt. Denn im Innovationspark soll unter anderem Platz für die neue Fabrik der Zukunft der Hauni (jetzt: Körber Technologies) geschaffen werden - und dafür muss schnell Baurecht geschaffen werden. (…)

(Bald ist es mit dem Grusel im Grabeland vorbei, Bergedorfer Zeitung, 20.03.2023)

Rough translation:

... Time is pressing. Because, among other things, space is to be created in the Innovation Park for the new factory of the future of Hauni (now: Körber Technologies) - and building rights must be created quickly for this. (...)

Q2

… Die Mitteilung des Vorstands der Hauni, die seit September "Körber Technologies GmbH" heißt, im Wortlaut: " Wir freuen uns bestätigen zu können, dass der Innovationspark Bergedorf nach intensiven Gesprächen zwischen der Körber AG und der Stadt Hamburg sowie dem Bezirk Bergedorf als bevorzugter Standort für die Körber Technologies GmbH in den weiteren Planungsarbeiten berücksichtigt werden kann." (…)

(Ulf-Peter Busse: Hauni bleibt in Bergedorf. Mutterkonzern Körber verkündet überraschend, an die A 25 ziehen zu wollen. Hamburger Abendblatt, 13.12.2022)

Rough translation:

… The statement from the Executive Board of Hauni, which has been called "Körber Technologies GmbH" since September, reads as follows: " We are pleased to confirm that, following intensive discussions between Körber AG and the City of Hamburg and the Bergedorf district, the Bergedorf Innovation Park can be considered as the preferred location for Körber Technologies GmbH in the further planning work." (…)

Are my hints helpful? Atomiccocktail (talk) 13:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Cheers mate, I get that Hauni GmbH was renamed and is now called "Körber Technologies GmbH". Now, this is also what the sources seem to state, but that doesn't mean that Körber's busines unit "Tabak" was renamed. According to the most recent "Jahresabschluss", the "Tabak" business unit comprises 30 firms, and only 12 of them bear the Hauni name. Is there any press release or news report that states that Körber's business unit (not Hauni) was renamend? Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 17:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Johannes Maximilian: Hauni Maschinenbau AG was the largest company and the lead company of the Tobacco business unit. See here: https://www.koerber.com/presse/koerber-konzern-geschaeftsfeld-tabak-stellt-sich-fuer-grundlegende-strukturelle-marktveraenderung-auf Today, there is no longer a "Tobacco" business unit. We have "Technologies" here. The former companies of the Tobacco business unit operate in this unit. And Hauni was renamed. Atomiccocktail (talk) 16:16, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

This is not what I was hoping for, but it has helped me nonetheless. The Tabak business unit was renamed per 1 September 2022. I'll implement the desired change. Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 16:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

@Johannes Maximilian: Thanks for your help! Atomiccocktail (talk) 10:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Edit request (2023-09-28)

Hello all.

I am acting on behalf of the agency C3 Creative Code and Content GmbH, their customer is Körber AG.

There are more recent figures from 2022. I think they should be used. Here is a suggestion for improvement.

Many thanks in advance.
Atomiccocktail (talk) 09:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Update of infobox:

revenue = €2.53 billion (2022)

num_employees = 12,798 (2022)

Update of intro:

Körber AG is a strategic management holding company based in Hamburg. In 2022, the group had more than 12,700 employees at more than 100 locations worldwide and generated sales of €2.53 billion.

References

Reply 28-SEP-2023

 Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page.  Spintendo  22:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi Spintendo, thanks for your quick reply and support of the proposal. I have made the changes. Atomiccocktail (talk) 08:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

History

The History section contains an arbitary selection of text culled from the company's website. For instance, the following sentence is written in a promotional style and does not make sense without context:

On July 14, 1946, Kurt A. Körber paved the way for the first business deals in Hamburg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.79.143.68 (talk) 10:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)