Talk:Kabaddi/Archive1

Incorrect Link to Star Sports

Did anyone realize that in the Pro Kabbadi league section it is linked to Fox Sports instead of Star Sports? How on earth did you mess that up so bad? 106.201.50.228 (talk) 06:15, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Dreadful English

Can someone edit this article, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.17.102 (talk) 22:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Untitled

How can a person both "hold his breath" and "chant "kabaddi, kabaddi, kabaddi"" at the same time? Something not right here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.40.41.250 (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

the rule is against breathing in - so chanting kabaddi allows the ref to determine that the person has not taken in a breath.EdwardLane (talk) 16:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Info on the attempt to enter the Olympics would be nice. Rich Farmbrough 12:39, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Origin of Kabaddi -tamilnadu, said by a Tamilnadu newspaper

"is a team contact sport that originated in Tamil Nadu, India" ------and its claimed by a Tamil Nadu newspaper. 82.225.253.30 (talk) 21:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Done! As simple as visiting the International Federation's website, which mentions nothing about Tamil Nadu, or any other region of India. Please note that this website is now under surveillance for partisan claims and bickering, after the simultaneous removal of weasel words denigrating Pakistan. Tapered (talk) 17:16, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

There was no such state called Tamil Nadu before Bifurcation of Madras state then how can one claim the origin as Tamilnadu -By LovSLif (talk) 12:55, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

There is no reliable source that says it originated in the state of Tamil Nadu. There is also enough evidence that this sport is much older than the state of Tamil Nadu, which was formed in 1956. Even if the claim is that it originated in the region we know as Tamil Nadu today, there has to be enough evidence to support it. An editor is asking for proof that it didn't originate there, which is absurd. If there is evidence of something having originated somewhere, you have to provide the proof. No reliable source of Kabaddi says anything about the origin of this sport being from Tamil Nadu. Hehest (talk) 19:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

I totally agree Hehest .

Also News papers are not considered reliable sources and can be reverted if cited based on news articles.By LovSLif (talk) 15:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Some of the references actually are copies of the Wikipedia article referring to Tamil Nadu. No reliable source has been provided to date.

(Malikhpur) 20:28, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Kabaddi is a sport that's been taught generations to generations in Tamil Nadu.most of the ancient great Tamil authors like Bharathiyar used kabaddi in their poems.many newspapers like viduthalai etc wrote about it's origin from Tamil nadu even before the independence. Angad singh (talk) 13:34, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@Angad singh: - The same is true of the Punjab where people claim kabaddi originate from. May be the non-circle form originated in South India with Amar form from Punjab. However, when there are many areas claiming the origin to the sport, the article cannot simply refer to Tamil Nadu. At present, the article is not neutral. I previously wrote an unbiased version by saying some forms originated in Tamil Nadu and others in North India. I will not now amend the article but will rely on you to make the article unbiased. User:Malikhpur (talk) 13:14, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

We have enough proof to say that kabaddi belongs to ancient tamilnadu eapecially the word 'kabaddi' has derived from the tamil word 'kai-pudi'.so the game kabaddi has ots origination in ancient tamil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4072:629F:3925:FA84:CD4F:22EF:A017 (talk) 15:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Kabaddi King

Someone the other day had something about Kabaddi king written here, its nice to see its been deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.56.9 (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Red Rover?

Is this game similar to Red Rover, played in western cultures? Hoof Hearted 18:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

There is not much emphasis on chain making or breaking in kabaddi. Human chains are used only as a effective means of trapping the raider.--B. Srinivasa Sasidhar 17:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Chain Rule

"the defenders must form a chain, for example by linking hands; if the chain is broken, a member of the defending team is sent off"

Is this correct? I've just wtached an old tv match and this wasn't the case, nor is it mentioned in the rules at [[1]]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.48.238 (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it is incorrect. As for as i know, Chain Rule says that if the defenders have formed a chain and the attacker tags or touches one (any one) of the defenders and makes back it safely, all the defenders who were part of the chain are out. 122.163.7.6 (talk) 20:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Adi

Uncited Claims

I am worried about a lot of this article. There is a part that reads "not much is known about the origin of this game. There is, however, concrete evidence, that the game is 4,000 years old.". These two sentences seem to utterly contradict each other, and neither are cited. I am not a Kabaddi expert at all so would appreciate someone with some knowledge providing some evidence for either of the statements. As it stands a lot of this article is not cited and I doubt the ability of much of it to be backed up by evidnece. I'll leave some time so that someone might come forward, but otherwise I seriously believe that much of it should be deleted or replaced. Quoth 31 (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

What on Earth is this about? - "The game is also played extensively in the small town of Peebles in the Scottish Borders, mainly in the local primary school playground, where it is favoured to more traditional childhood past-times such as 'British bulldogs' and 'Kiss, Cuddle and Torture'." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.135.72 (talk) 20:50, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Doubtful recent modifications

This section recently added not only spoils the presentation but seems doubtful as well

There is a popular belief that Kabaddi originated in the South Indian State of Tamil Nadu. A folk history of the game tells that it developed from a game of Tag.

Tag is a playground game played worldwide that involves one or more players chasing other players in an attempt to "tag" or touch them, usually with their hands between two young boys the rule of holding one's breath being added later. The game is known by many names, all of

Tamil language. origin: Kabaddi, Sadugudu, Gudugudu, Palinjadugudu and Sadugoodatthi. The word 'Kabaddi' could have originated from the Tamil words 'kai' (hand) and 'pidi' (catch).

--90.2.81.15 (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

International Kabaddi Federation

International Kabaddi federation is the apex body to govern the game in the world. The 1st Circle style world cup was also organised by Government of Punjab after having taken permission from IKF. IKF is a sports organisation and on the page of kabaddi should be mentioned. Deorajchaturvedi (talk) 06:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi I want the instruction should be added in this it is too good as it should be Coooool👍👍👍 Harshkadu.111 (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Kabbadi World Cup

Why is the World Cup section dedicated to revering India's participation?

There is no good reason for a column giving India's position - nor India's last game - and the section should be entirely re-written to give the facts in a non-partisan way.

Foot of our stairs (talk) 23:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

The name of the sport

Does the name Kabaddi have a meaning (other than the sport) in some language/s? From where/what has the sport got its name? --85.76.190.134 (talk) 21:38, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't know the others, but in Persian it is means "Where are you?" or "Who are you" (according to pronounciation) because it was played by farmers in the evening after their way from work to home. ref (In Persian) P. Pajouhesh (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

EIMSKabaddi

I'm pretty sure that this is vandalism "In the 'EIMS' form of Kabaddi, agents use knives or any form of bladed weapon, to drive the opposition out of the office. If an agent successfully avoids being stabbed to death, he or she will enjoy the reward of a trip to the local falafel house. Chairs are allowed." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.235.206 (talk) 21:45, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

britannica writes this about the early history of the sport, much older then the punjab write up on this page.

(britannica)Prehistory of Kabaddi

"The ancient Indian epic poem Mahabharata, in its account of the legendary battles of Kurukshetra, tells of a military operation a doomed raid by Arjuna’s son, Abhimanyu, on an enemy camp—that has been noted for its resemblance to kabaddi. For many years kabaddi was played for physical exercise by pupils in Indian gurukuls (Vedic schools run by gurus). Though minor variations emerged, the game’s principal objective of raiding the enemy territory remained common."

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1410833/kabaddi

Im not happy with the history section of this current page, change it and add The Britannica ref as i have given or i can do it myself.92.236.96.38 (talk) 17:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)Caplock

Thank you to the editor for the Ref add, looks much better thank you.92.236.96.38 (talk) 21:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)Caplock

Feigned "Vandalism" Accusation

This matter dates of some months ago, but I'm bringing this up, as I didn't receive any notification of having been reverted back then. I highly suggest the user in question ("Magentic Manifestations") to actually read WP:VANDAL first, as we can deduct from his edit summary and revert (8 December 2015) that he unfortunately doesn't seem to have any clue of what "vandalism" per Wikipedia's policies actually means. Having said that, I read the entire article in question. Its written by a single person, and tells about his personal experiences, his travels, and about personal anecdotes. Yet here, on this article, this "article" is being presented as a supposed WP:RS while in fact its a vile violation of WP:PRIMARY and aforementioned WP:RS, as the whole matter is based on this self-formulated material. Its totally nonsensical, as there is absolutely no such thing as a "traditional" Kabaddi sports culture in Iran. Yet based on this very single primary source article, its being presented as such. Iran apparantly competes in international competitions since some years, but so do several European and North American nations since some years; doesn't make it a "traditional sport" there either. Based on all this, I'm removing this bogus misinformation. If secondary sources can be presented that back the entire matter up, including that its a "traditional sport" there, then feel obviously free to reinstate it. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2016

From : Kabaddi is a contact sport that originated in ancient India To : Kabaddi is the contact sport that originated in ancient India from the state of Tamil Nadu.

Btech.vinoth (talk) 12:44, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - as the article states, with numerous references "Some forms of the game originated in Tamil Nadu and southern India whilst other forms of Kabaddi originated in northern parts of India" - Arjayay (talk) 13:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Removal of sourced content

@Señor indio: - I have reverted content you removed which was sourced. There is no clear consensus as to where Kabaddi originated. User:Malikhpur (talk) 21:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

@Angad singh:- I have reverted content you removed which was sourced. As stated above, there is no clear consenus as to where Kabaddi originated. This issue comes up time and again. I reiterate, there are MANY states in India claiming to be th ehome of Kabaddi. Therefore please leave the article in a neutral and unbiased manner. User:Malikhpur (talk) 14:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@Angad singh: - You have removed sourced material and are not being neutral. User:Malikhpur (talk) 20:29, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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This Article Needs an Overhaul.

This article is pretty terrible. The initial summary seems to be readable, and provides necessary information. However, the body of this article is horrendous. It has terrible English and numerous Claims that are not cited. Someone knowledgeable about Kabaddi and its history should clean this up- it would be greatly appreciated. Justus et peccator (talk)

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Not clear enough

After reading this article, I do get a very general idea. Still, I have no idea how such a game looks like:

- how players are tagged (touched? marked? ...?), and how does one avoid being tagged?

- What do other players on the raiding team do to help their side? Or are all on a raider's team passive during a raid, and the ones being raided run around avoiding being tagged?

- What does being tackled mean? The word implied being somehow forced to the ground, but... there must be some details to make this more clear, no?

Grottenolm42 (talk) 14:03, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree, that’s what jumped out at me when reading and trying to understand the article. I found a couple of decent sources (there are a lot of crap ones) that describe many of the rules, and was going to have a crack at rewriting. But then I discovered there is more detail at Kabaddi in India#Standard style which probably belongs here instead of there. — Pelagic (talk) 18:58, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Seems to imply the defenders want to avoid contact, the unexplained "tagged" - yet at the same time are trying to initiate contact - "tackle" (also unexplained). Makes no sense.

Etymology

The lead currently states the word "kabaddi' is from Tamil and links to a blog article for this which seems unreliable. The Britannica makes no mention of Tamil anywhere on its article on the game (Kabaddi/Archive1 at the Encyclopædia Britannica), the Oxford Dictionary does not mention Tamil as well but rather compares it to Kannada and Hindi ("kabaddi". Lexico UK English Dictionary. Oxford University Press. n.d.). Can someone add relible sources for the Tamil origin of the word? Otherwise it is better to remove this. Gotitbro (talk) 00:10, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

I have removed the Tamil mention for now from the lead. I did find a Collins Dictionary entry which lists the word as Tamil in origin. Someone can add this if they like (it is better than the above blog) but it doesn't expand on the origin and just states Tamil. Gotitbro (talk) 21:19, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Improvements are needed in desribing the rules.

The description of rules are not understandable to someone who does not already know the game. Where is the "baulk line"? Where is the "bonus line"? What is meant by "lobbies"? What exactly must you to count as a "tackle"? Klausok (talk) 08:25, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2021

Kabadi is a South Asian team sport in which players must hold their breath while making raids into the opposing team's half of the field. The term Kabaddi is a Tamil word which means(கை-பிடி) "kai" (hand), "pidi" (catch/hold), which could be translated into "Holding Hands". Two teams occupy opposite halves of a small pool or field and take turns sending a "raider" into the other half, in order to win points by tackling members of the opposing team; then the raider tries to return to his own half, holding his breath and chanting the word "Kabaddi" during the whole raid. The raider must not cross the lobby unless he touches any of his opponents. If he does so then he will be declared as "out". There is also a bonus line which ensure extra points for the raider if he manages to touch it and return to his side of the field successfully. In the international team version of kabaddi, two teams of seven members each occupy opposite halves of a field of 10 m × 13 m in case of men and 8 m × 12 m in case of women. Each has three supplementary players held in reserve. The game is played with 20-minute halves and a five-minute halftime break during which the teams exchange sides. Teams take turns sending a "raider" to the opposite team's half, where the goal is to tag or wrestle members of the opposite team before returning to the home half. Tagged members are "out" and temporarily sent off the field. 43.228.229.2 (talk) 11:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)