Talk:Kach
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Latest comment: 1 month ago by Amakuru in topic Requested move 23 August 2024
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Islamophobia
editChange criticism of islam to islamophobis this is a xenophobic organisation 193.210.167.118 (talk) 16:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 January 2023
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The following change is recommended to provide context into discussed events. Care has been taken to keep phrasing and details neutral.
Change "In 2022, the United States removed the group from its list of terrorist organizations." to "In 2022, the United States removed the group from its list of terrorist organizations, alongside 4 inactive groups.
The citations for the above sentence is a dead link. The following is a suitable replacement: https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099088398/u-s-to-remove-groups-from-foreign-terrorism-blacklist DanielTheManual (talk) 13:21, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- @DanielTheManual:
Question: why is the subordinate clause "alongside 4 inactive groups
" relevant to this sentence? Colonestarrice (talk) 10:22, 10 January 2023 (UTC)- Saying directly it was due to inactivity would be presumptive as the reasons were not publicly disclosed. However the grouping alongside other inactive groups is suggestive that the removal was not due to a reevaluation of Kack's goals and means of action, which readers may presume if not given the additional context. I thought providing context without conclusion in the most neutral feasible language reflects known facts most accurately. DanielTheManual (talk) 05:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Partly done: I've updated the broken ref using your source but I've not included this text because it still strikes me as extraneous and redundant. Colonestarrice (talk) 00:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Jewish Defense League is not a paramilitary wing of Kach
editThe JDL operated almost exclusively in the U.S. and Canada, and thus does not fulfill the definition of a political paramilitary wing of a political party. Aside from both being founded by Meir Kahane, the groups are fairly different in their goals (one being combatting antisemitism in America, the other being more focused on religious Zionism and anti-Arabism). A. Rosenberg (talk) 18:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 23 August 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 13:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Kach (political party) → Kach – This article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support it’s the primary use. FortunateSons (talk) 17:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not sure it's the primary topic over all those placenames. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I looked at them before opening the moving request, they mostly have a few hundred inhabitants. I would argue the party really is the primary topic. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: I don’t think a consensus is formed yet. It would be nice if the nominator would provide analysis that led to their conclusions. Best, Reading Beans 15:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- What kind of analysis are you missing in my previous comment? I did not comment on the politician and the military officer, but both are also just barely notable. The party is strongly notable. PhotographyEdits (talk) 15:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think comparing the page views might be useful? But I’m not sure how to show that. FortunateSons (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- What kind of analysis are you missing in my previous comment? I did not comment on the politician and the military officer, but both are also just barely notable. The party is strongly notable. PhotographyEdits (talk) 15:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Page view analysis would definitely support a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC argument. —Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you for looking this up! PhotographyEdits (talk) 18:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, political party appears to be the primary topic by both criteria among the entries on the dab page. Dekimasuよ! 05:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.