Talk:Kaingang language

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A nasalized glottal stop?

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Wouldn't that just be a nasalized vowel? —Ostra stelit chinde honacegirsuoziu!— 23:42, 19 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

No, it's physically impossible. A glottal stop means that there can be no air passing through the vocal tract, including the nasal passages. Perhaps it's not an actual stop as it was transcribed, in which case it might be a glottalized nasal vowel.

The ref says it's a nasalized glottal occlusive. They're wrong. — kwami (talk) 05:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hey thanks for the quick reply and the edit. I figured this comment would just sit here for the next four years. Perhaps they're basically just saying it's "a glottal stop that nasalizes the following vowel", but I have a hard time considering that to be a single phonological unit. Although that doesn't really make sense if the nasalized glottal stop is caused by a following nasal vowel anyway. —Soap— 03:53, 23 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I can think of two possibilities off hand: The glottal stop is transparent to nasal spreading/assimilation, so the vowel on the other side becomes nasalized, and this is explained by positing that the glottal stop is itself nasalized; or the glottal isn't fully occlusive, so there is glottalization without a cutoff of nasal air flow. — kwami (talk) 09:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

"Nasalized" here means just a lowered velum, not necessarily accompanied by full nasal airflow - as well as being transparent to assimilation, etc. "Nasalized" laryngeals of this type are common throughout South America and Southeast Asia. In fact, sometimes they can even be a cause of nasal assimilation (Rhinoglottophilia). So, of course, it depends on one's interpretation of what nasalization means. Since most authors reporting on these languages use the term "nasalization", I see no problem in using it here.KelilanK (talk) 18:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Jolkesky (2009)

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Much of what is written in the phonology section is backed up by Jolkesky (2009), cited only once. This article is available to view for anyone, so please introduce proper footnotes if you have time. Peter238 (talk) 21:55, 6 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

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