Talk:Kalākaua's Privy Council of State

Latest comment: 5 years ago by KAVEBEAR in topic Ready for mainspace?

First look

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KAVEBEAR at your convenience, have a look. The table below lists all 85 individuals I could find 1875–1891 for Kalakaua's privy council. No listing for 1874. I am assuming that Thrum's got their information directly from government sources, making the head count as accurate as is possible. With some variations, it looks like the king kept a core group of the same people around as advisors. There are numerous names that appear consistently 1875–1891. Maybe this is worth publishing at this point, since we have the Liliuokalani one. Thinking over. — Maile (talk) 20:40, 13 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

I think the list is still incomplete and missing a couple of privy councilors, but its maybe worth publishing at the current state. KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:15, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Well, it can wait if you know how to find the missing. There's no big hurry on this. — Maile (talk) 00:18, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'm a little busy right now with work. But you can find the rest, here in the minutes: . KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:27, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
OK. Another day. I'm feeling a little cross-eyed from skipping around on sourcing 85. Thanks. — Maile (talk) 00:48, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • KAVEBEAR I moved the links you supplied to the bottom of this page. I'll probably publish this without. It hurts my eyes to look at that, so that's that. And my browser/system scrunches it down to one or two lines at a time, so I can't eyeball the whole of what I'm looking at. Thanks for providing, but it will just have to save for future visits by whoever wants to look at it. . — Maile (talk) 01:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I took a cursory glance at the minutes searching for "oath" and "new" for incidents of new appointments. Noticed most of the names are on the list below. It seems most of his privy councilors were relatively consistent. KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for that. Since I can't view a big area of the minutes, I've started checking the below list against the minutes with individual name searches. That's been helpful here for the existing names. I'm still not publishing, because there's still research I want to do on the individuals listed. If you are in a hurry to publish, we can do as is. If not, I'm in no hurry. — Maile (talk) 21:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

At his bedside when he died

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From Kuykendall, p. 472:

"At the king's bedside at this moment were, on the right, Reverend J. Sanders Reed, Colonel Macfarlane, and Admiral Brown; on the left, Colonel Baker, Kalua, and Kahikina; at the foot of the bed, Mrs. Swan, Consul McKinley, and Dr. Woods; grouped around the room, Lieut. Dyer, Charles R. Bishop, Godfrey Rhodes, Judge Hart, Senator G. E. Whitney, Mrs. McKinley, Mrs. Price, Mrs. J. S. Reed, and Claus Spreckels. Kalakaua was fifty-four years, two months, and 4 days of age at the time of his death."

KAVEBEAR Thanks for catching. Please see above where I got the info from. I see now that not everyone was at the bedside, just in the room when death came. 02:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Ready for mainspace?

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KAVEBEAR feel free to edit the lead or anything else. I need to add more references in the lead, but I'm now pretty satisfied with this list. If you feel it's not ready, let me know. — Maile (talk) 01:20, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Looks good. I have no issue with it.KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:00, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply