Talk:Kaleida Labs

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There was a brief article here about Kaleida Labs before I wrote this one. Except for a single reference, to the CD-ROM version of the Swedish National Encyclopedia, I have rewritten the entire article. I thank the previous authors for their efforts.

I have no recollection of the Swedish National Encyclopedia project. I had thought that Robert Winter's Ragtime was the only product that ever shipped with ScriptX. Perhaps someone else has better information.

I've always wondered how much money Kaleida burned through in its four years. It was probably a drop in the bucket next to Taligent. Together, these ventures employed hundreds. Because of the huge resources they could command for very speculative projects, I've sometimes thought of them as prototypes for the startups of the Internet boom in the late 1990s.

I worked at Kaleida Labs between 1993 and 1996. As a writer, I wrote or edited a significant portion of the documentation for ScriptX during this period. So my perspective is an insider one, but I was never an officer or manager, privy to inside information about the company, beyond what was announced to employees. I hope this brief article will be added to and edited by others.

Following the closure of Kaleida Labs, I joined the ScriptX group at Apple Computer. (Kaleida employees were effectively employees of Apple already, with their benefits and compensation administered by Apple Computer.) Apple's commitment to ScriptX was to meet commitments to its developers, not to continue development of ScriptX. Most ScriptX team members who went to Apple used their time there to search for other jobs, either inside or outside Apple, recognizing that Apple no longer intended to support ScriptX.

Within a few months, I was contracting for Sun Microsystems, where I worked at the Javasoft division (in the building formerly occupied by Taligent). In my brief period as a contractor at Sun (about 8 months) one of my assignments was to proofread the galleys for the Java Virtual Machine specification. --Metzenberg 03:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Additional Material About Media Players

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I am thinking about another section. Maybe people could write their ideas here.

Another issue ... Content Neutrality. Today we have media players that are not platform independent and not content neutral, although the QuickTime player is available for Windows. We also have media players (like ITunes) that are also channels for selling and distributing media. Was this business model contemplated by anybody at the time of Kaleida Labs. Can we say that, if the Kaleida Media Player had succeeded, there would be a content neutral media player rather than a broad range of incompatible media players, some of them actually designed to sell content.

With the establishment of Kaleida Labs, Apple Computer and IBM introduced the concept of a virtual media player. By the early 1990s, there was general recognition that personal computer technology would merge with other home entertainment systems, such as audio and video. Apple Computer had pioneered several early multimedia technologies on the Macintosh. HyperCard (1987) was the first widely used authoring system for hypermedia, employing a card metaphor to store and present data. QuickTime was capable of playing small video clips, although the size of each frame was tiny in 1991, and the frame rate was poor. Who first presented the idea that computers and home entertainment systems would merge?

Question: Does anybody know if there were earlier virtual media players? Where did the idea really come from?

By creating a virtual media player, Apple and IBM would insure that developers would create products for their systems, that they would not be locked out, either as an authoring and development environment, or as a playback environment.

--Metzenberg 05:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sugestion to move article

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I'd suggest that this article be moved to "Kaleida Labs" instead of just redirecting from there, as "Kaleida" is the name of a hospital consortium in Western New York that may soon be getting its own article. Perhaps create a disambiguation page here instead? Grzond 17:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I agree with you. This article should be under Kaleida Labs, not under Kaleida. There should be a see-also at the Kalieda article on the hospital consortium. A disambiguation page seems unnecessary. Go ahead and make the change. BTW, when you add to a Talk page, add at the bottom of the page. By clicking the "+" button, you can create a new section automatically at the bottom. I rearranged the Talk page so that the order of comments would be clear. --Metzenberg 20:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

I made the move. --Metzenberg 20:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


I USED to work there! WOOO! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.184.86 (talk) 12:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

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