Talk:Kamen Rider Double (character)

Hoshi = Gaia???

This time, I'm confused about how "Hoshi" means "Gaia". Gaia is related to the earth, not the stars. "Hoshi" means "Star" in Japanese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProjectW (talk • contribs) 23:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

is it possible that it can also mean Earth? You know, what with Saving Gaia and all that. Just sayin'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.15.109.154 (talk) 03:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The kanji for "Earth" in this instance are being read as "Hoshi" which is the Japanese word for both "Star" and "Planet".—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Double's arsenal

shown in toy form, but reflects the show Fractyl (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Did you know that the Giji Memories can be used on the Double Driver for any combination such as StagJoker or SpiderJoker? AlienX2009 (talk) 14:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the show will work like that.Fractyl (talk) 19:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Anything other than the main weapons and the basic bike form are the only items currently confirmed to exist within Double. Anything else will have to wait for the premiere or other such situations.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I saw some videos on youtube.. Videos that presentating about double driver and gaia memories (toy). Currently, neither Stag nor Spider can be use with Double Driver; But this fact may change, if TOEI want it.User: Erick_kurnianto 01 March 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 03:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC).

You are aware that this discussion is from six months ago, correct?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ya, I have no problem with that. User: Erick_kurnianto 02 March 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 04:25, 2 March 2010 (UTC).

Motif

other Kamen Riders' articles have their motifs mentioned in the lead. What about Double?--Rimara (talk) 02:37, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

We don't know it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:37, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

It's the Grasshopper. AlienX2009 (talk) 14:07, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

WE do not know it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:51, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Besides, where is it even MENTIONED that it's a grasshopper? That may be the inspiration behind the design, but that doesn't make it the motif of the character. That's like the old Faiz/Firefly argument. While Faiz may have been inspired by a firefly design-wise, his motif was the Greek letter Phi. Decade's design may have been inspired by a striped shield bug, but his motif is barcodes. In this same instance, Double may be inspired by a grasshopper or some other insect, we don't even know that really, but that does not make it his motif. DJ Kidna (talk) 02:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Gaia Memories

Question. What do Luna's abilities have to do with illusions? From what's been seen so far, the stretching and whipping of weaponry and limbs is not at all an illusion based ability, and those are really happening physically to the weapons and limbs. I would say that the Luna Memory's powers are reflective of the Moon's effect on tides or something like that. Is it documented that it is in fact illusion based? DJ Kidna (talk) 02:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

"I would say that the Luna Memory's powers are reflective of the Moon's effect on tides or something like that"

Your comment makes some inspiration.. I would like to reply your question.. On first episode (battle against Magma Dophant).. Luna Memory win easily against Magma Memory. I would agree if you say that Luna Memory has some "water-type" element.. Because it also makes either right limbs or metal shaft to be "more liquid". But I would like to see all episode and know.. My opinion is right or wrong. Erick_kurnianto 24 February 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 15:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC).

The Luna Memory is defined as having the power of "Fantasy" and "Illusion" on the official website. None of these other things are remotely sourced.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

New pix

A new Gaia memory.

• silhoutte of Fang Joker
• FangJoker

Fractyl (talk) 22:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

None of this is official. All we know is that there will be a form that is sillhouetted in the first link. Items in the second link may or may not be real.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

That's what I've been saying. AlienX2009 (talk) 22:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I say otherwise, due to the "Shinken Gold" bit. But I'll wait a month or two before making the needed prepations. Until then, Alien X, let it go for now.Fractyl (talk) 22:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Here's your evidence, Lord Ryu.

• Scan of Fang Memory and Fang Joker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.14.99.205 (talk) 10:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

This is new after three weeks, Mr. asshole IP address.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 13:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, chill out dudes... What's with the name calling? Very mature, I'm certain... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.15.122.160 (talk) 03:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Den-O

added Den-O to the description of Double, as he was techically the 1st Rider made of 2 beings, as he was made of Ryotaro and Momotarus (or any of the other main imagin) in more or less the same fashion as double, although the imagin takes full control rather then half control as Phillipe does —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.124.148 (talk) 21:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, thinking about, Kiva was also controlled by the Arms Monsters? making Double the third 2 bodies, 2 personalities rider? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.124.148 (talk) 21:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Den-O and Kiva don't count as a 2 in 1 rider. The Imagins fully control Ryotaro in Den-O, while in Kiva, Wataru was not controlled by the Arms Monsters. Double is the only 2 in 1 rider because it can be controlled by both Shotaro and/or Philip.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 22:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't accept that, the Ryotaro and the Imagins work in the same way as Double, Phillipe/Imagin's enter Ryotaro's/Shotaro's and they fight? although the level of control is debatable, the fact is that the main form of Den-O is Sword Form, which is Ryotaro and Momotarus

Kiva on the other hand, was fully controlled by the Arms Monsters, hence the full change of fighting style and voice.

BUT Double was the first rider that solely needs 2 people to form the rider, whereas Den-O and Kiva could fight independant of the others —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.124.148 (talk) 22:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In Den-O, the Imagins fully takeover Ryotaro's body and only the Imagins fought in the fights. In Kiva, the Arms Monsters only provide their personalities to give Wataru the use of their fighting styles. See, not 2 in 1, unlike Double, which it needs both Shotaro and Philip to work. Shotaro's the body while Philip is the mind, unless their in FangJoker, where the roles are reversed. CycloneJoker Xtreme is the only form that both Shotaro and Philip are able to fight together.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

So they are the first rider that must be made of 2 people, whereas the other riders are the first that can be made of 2 (or more in the case of Den-O) minds. Your just ignoring me cuz your a wikipedia Nazi and not listening and assuming your right despite not thinking about it, and as such i must make further points in block capitals. Double is the first rider that NEEDS 2 people to form the Rider, BUT Den-O and Kiva had times where 2 minds could be in one, REPEAT ONE, THATS THE SAME STATE AS DOUBLE, body, making him the THIRD RIDER to have a 2 minds in one body state —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.124.148 (talk) 22:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

1. Don't call me a nazi, 2. You're not getting it. Double is the only one that froms from 2 people. Den-O had Imagins fighting against Imagins, Kiva was just infusing the Arms Monsters personalities into him, both didn't form from two people.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 22:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

1. i called you a Nazi, notice the capital? its people like you that drag the reputation down 2. you FAIL! den-O and Kiva had moments of 2 minds in 1 body, same as Double

i'm gonna stop this now, i refuse to fight with pig headed f*cktards like yourself that haven't seen the light of day since their mother rejected them, good bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.124.148 (talk) 22:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

CycloneAccel Xtreme

Seems the form will be appearing in the series, likely in 44 but mentioned in 43. Episode 43 promo 72.184.129.252 (talk) 21:00, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

It can wait till the episode airs.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Might as well start on it

Adding GoldXtreme. Xtreme2010 ( ~AlienX2009~ ) 00:57, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

This will make Double have 13 (15 with CC & JJ) forms. Xtreme2010 ( ~AlienX2009~ ) 21:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

CycloneAccel Xtreme

Known as the Ultimate Double (究極Ｗ（ダブル）, Kyūkyoku Daburu), CycloneAccel Xtreme (サイクロンアクセル・エクストリーム, Saikuron Akuseru Ekusutorīmu) represents the union between Philip and Ryu as Shroud originally intended. This form is used against the Old Dopant when Shotaro is unable to fight due to his old age. Like CycloneJoker Xtreme, his motif is that of the letter X.

CycloneJoker GoldXtreme

CycloneJoker GoldXtreme (サイクロンジョーカーゴールドエクストリーム, Saikuron Jōkā Gōrudo Ekusutorīmu) is the enhanced version of CycloneJoker Xtreme. The Crystal Server are turned into wings to give Double flying capabilities and the new Crystal Server is turned into gold. This form will appear in Kamen Rider Double Forever: A to Z/The Gaia Memories of Fate, during the final battle against Kamen Rider Eternal.