Talk:Kara Thrace

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Kara Thrace Talk Archive 1

Similarities

Pardon my nerdiness for a moment... There are some other minor similarities between the two Starbuck characters (Sockhoff and Benedict), which may or may not be worth mentioning in the article. For example, each of them is foretold of a special destiny (Thrace in her encounters with the hybrids, Starbuck in his encounter with the Seraphs in "War of the Gods"). Along the same lines, both of them are referred to as angels (we'll see how that pans out for Thrace in the series finale). I'm pretty sure that's a deliberate coincidence. There are others that are probably just accidental... like the fact that Thrace's father was a piano player who deserted his family ("Someone to Watch Over Me"), and Starbuck was an orphan who's father turns out to be Fred Astaire ("The Man with Nine Lives"). 68.57.200.188 (talk) 00:51, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Interesting, but it's not our place to draw those lines. Unless you can find a published source making these connections, it's OR. SixFourThree (talk) 19:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)SixFourThree

Starbuck race unknown?

I think Starbuck's "Race" should be listed as Unknown because we haven't been told what she is. In the series she tells Adama that she doesn't even know what she is. Later she tells Lee only that she was send back from the dead to guide the fleet to a new home and her journey is over, and poof she's gone. Actress Katie Sackhoff in an interview said that what her character is wouldn't be resolved in the series finale. Ronald D. Moore and David Eick have as far as I know, never said what she was either... if they did, then we need a reliable source - preferably the SciFi channel, or one of their personal blogs. Starbuck may have started as human, but ended as something else. Calling her a human, a Cylon, a Cylon-hybrid, alien, or divine being/angel is completely speculative and should be reverted until there is a confirmation, if ever. Cyberia23 (talk) 16:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it is speculative to list unknown. Even if her character was human in the beginning and then became an "angel" she would have still been human. There is no consensus for the change. --< Nicht Nein! (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing speculative about listing her as Unknown. At worst it could be left as blank. If you wish to list her as Human, then you will need to provide a source. Further, should you find a verifiable source, then you will need to find a source explaining that she is still human when she is an angel, otherwise that is speculative on your part. 124.214.131.55 (talk) 00:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, it has not been said officially, but most probably her father is number 7, Daniel, who was boxed by cabal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.187.178.25 (talk) 13:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

That is my assumption as well, Kara was possibly the first Cylon-Hybrid (at least before Hera), her father is Daniel (Number 7) who mated with a human and had a child without the other Cylons knowing. She obviously became something else after "Maelstrom" because we see her dead body and crashed Viper. Someone or something remade her so she could lead the fleet to Earth. Remade her Viper too. I was wondering since we see Kara vanish like Yoda at the end of the series if her Viper vanished too? Cyberia23 (talk) 20:55, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

That was my theory as well. However, it is officially wrong. In an interview, Ron Moore specially deals with this issue. He states that "Daniel is definitely a rabbit hole" and he warned people not to pursue it because they would be disappointed as it was not meant to be. Bendono (talk) 09:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Either cite that she is human / angel or remove it See WP:V. 124.214.131.55 (talk) 04:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I've edited {{BSG character}} to make the "race" field optional, and removed it entirely from the article. That takes care of that. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Not really, but whatever. Cyberia23 (talk) 05:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

An elegant solution. Well played. SixFourThree (talk) 16:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)SixFourThree

Wait, so Starbuck is not an elephant?! Oh. Oh gods. Daniel her father? What strange logic did you pursue that ended with this conclusion? Gods dammit, i loved Katee Sackhoff's portrayal of Thrace, but i wish they had left her in that maelstrom. There were many ridiculous plots in S3.5 and 4, and i barely kept myself interested after that episode with the trial of Baltar and all, but we got some nice CGI in the end, and Kara, ressurected! It was bittersweet, sweet to see Starbuck once again, but bitter because that was as far as i was able to suspend my disbelief. I stopped watching the show seriously after Gaius' rant about god, in one episode. The show had played the 'religious card', and i was sickened. Uuuh, it is destiny! There were two things that made me follow up on the remainder of the episodes: Starbuck, and the hope that Lee would find his way back to the cockpit, and that the two of them would be at it again. Katee did a great job, had great chemistry with Bamber, but the scenario wore out. Here's to the old man and both of his ladies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.55.251 (talk) 03:28, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Lee seeing the Raider in Maelstrom

I edited out the reference to Lee seeing the Raider in Maelstrom, as RDM says in the commentary that Lee did not see the Raider. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.64.243.179 (talk) 04:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

RfC: Angel?

Okay, as I've been watching this show lately, they seem to make it abundantly clear that she is a perpetual angel. Would those who edit this page more frequently be opposed to me acknowledging this with the category of Fictional angels? Yay? Nay? DarthBotto _talk•cont 09:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Since I haven't received any feedback, I'm turning this into an RfC. DARTHBOTTO _talk•cont 22:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)